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Re: Ye Religion Thread
« Reply #1110 on: February 28, 2007, 09:22:15 AM »
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« Reply #1111 on: February 28, 2007, 10:02:20 AM »
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We are now in uncharted territory involving CO2 emissions. Never before have the levels been this high (>400 ppm), and we are seeing an rate of change in temperature like never before.

1 degree in 100 years,  shouldn't the temperature have increased more from 1940-2000, or do you think the lack of increase was due to natural causes?  the IPCC says the earth will be 8 degrees warmer in 2050, i'll be around to see this not happen.

there are other reasons, besides CO2 emissions, why we might measure a higher rate of temperature change.  you have the urban heat island effect, the chopping down of forests, inaccurate measurements, etc.  if CO2 has a significant effect, satellites should be measuring higher temperatures as well.  not that i believe the earth has never warmed this fast; who knows, how many ice core samples do we have?  does one measure the earth's average temperature from one location? how do you show CO2 significantly increases temperature?  what about factoring in other causes when we can't measure their effect? not to mention we don't know what to expect naturally.  you keep showing me a graph of CO2 and temperature,  isn't it obvious temperature would dictate CO2 levels.  there are so many other factors that dictate temperature, and CO2 levels always seem to vary with the temperature.  how are you determing CO2 alters temperature significantley? seems to me the professor of atomopheric science from MIT had the right attitude.

dude man like open your eyes and see... it's pretty obvious we're at fault here, save the planet, save the trees, save the whales! lets all not wash our hair and sit in a circle and sing peace on earth while the bong gets passed around...  :zzz:

my take: The earth is getting warmer? Oh bummer! You mean I won't freeze my ass off in the morning while I wait for my car to warm up which in turn makes me late for work and frozen? Damn, fuck global warming.... I'll take the cold!

hah no thanks... I embrace global warming (even if it is a crock of shit to begin with).

So after the warming we get the 'big freeze' right? ok ill be dead by then, don't care.
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« Reply #1112 on: February 28, 2007, 10:08:56 AM »
well, we've already figured out how to poke a hole in the ozone layer to admit more heat, so I think we might have countermeasures when it comes time for the big freeze.. We'll just go back to using r-22 in our air conditioners and spraying cans of hair-net at the sky..

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« Reply #1113 on: February 28, 2007, 10:20:48 AM »
1 degree in 100 years,  shouldn't the temperature have increased more from 1940-2000, or do you think the lack of increase was due to natural causes?  the IPCC says the earth will be 8 degrees warmer in 2050, i'll be around to see this not happen.

The temperature increased .6 degrees Celsius from 1975-2005, a 30 year period. The primary focus should be on this rather than a 100 year period because humans have had a far more significant impact on the environment with more recent times. And no, the IPCC does not say the earth will be (definitely like you imply) 8 degrees warmer in 2050.

there are other reasons, besides CO2 emissions, why we might measure a higher rate of temperature change.

I mentioned specifically is more to global warming than CO2.

you have the urban heat island effect, the chopping down of forests, inaccurate measurements, etc.  if CO2 has a significant effect, satellites should be measuring higher temperatures as well.

Chopping down of trees is clearly the result of humans doing it.

Urban heat island effect has negligible impact on global average temperature.

Inaccurate measurements is not an argument. You need to provide counter-evidence rather than saying simple, undisputed recording techniques from the earth are inaccurate. 

not that i believe the earth has never warmed this fast; who knows, how many ice core samples do we have?  does one measure the earth's average temperature from one location?
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« Reply #1114 on: February 28, 2007, 10:20:59 AM »
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We are now in uncharted territory involving CO2 emissions. Never before have the levels been this high (>400 ppm), and we are seeing an rate of change in temperature like never before.

1 degree in 100 years,
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« Reply #1116 on: February 28, 2007, 10:37:00 AM »


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« Reply #1117 on: February 28, 2007, 12:49:35 PM »
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« Reply #1118 on: February 28, 2007, 12:53:45 PM »
Misled? Derrrr metal derrrrr... dude after it gets warm it cools... it's happened a bunch of times.

I don't know, I don't see global warming as a bad thing. I also don't see it as entirely being our fault. If anything it seems natural...
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« Reply #1119 on: February 28, 2007, 01:07:05 PM »
in my opinion there are to many unknowns. there's many factors that change temperature, and no one can deduce how big of a role CO2 plays.
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« Reply #1120 on: February 28, 2007, 01:28:40 PM »
in my opinion there are to many unknowns

Yes because all you do is form opinions instead of researching shit moron. Sorry, but it's true. The Blatancy of your stupidity is very apparent. The argument that we are too inferior to fathom how things work is ridiculous. You are a stubborn retard that self-proclaims himself as all-knowing, and you put your worthless opinions and the opinions of others against OBVIOUS FACTS like it actually makes an argument. It doesn't.  :sorry:
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« Reply #1121 on: February 28, 2007, 01:53:00 PM »
sigh
if i have something to say, i say it, if someone changes my mind, fine, i see nothing wrong with that. i was actually hoping for people's opinions, and their own ideas, but i guess that was wishfull thinking.
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« Reply #1122 on: February 28, 2007, 02:01:04 PM »
It's his opinion that you have self-motivation towards a particular conclusion that is unscientific. He simply said it the "haunted" way.

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« Reply #1123 on: February 28, 2007, 04:25:26 PM »
I guess it's wishful thinking too when other people play you expecting a fun match when you start talking shit about a shitty setup saying how you would own them with a good one, and then disconnect!  :oops:
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