I hear ya. But that really doesn't bother me near as much as the peole that "DO" believe in God, but choose not to folow him or accept him.
Quote from: [btf]deathstalkerI hear ya. But that really doesn't bother me near as much as the peole that "DO" believe in God, but choose not to folow him or accept him.if god exists, and there is an afterlife and judges me negativley, then he was not the god i wanted to follow in the first place, so .. so be it
How could he judge you negativley if you followd his teachings. That's all he is asking.And if someone doesn't "know" about his teachings they will most ceartainly be "informed" about them after the second coming. Really, the only way to be judged negativeley is to "know" he and jesus exsists and "still" turn them down.Or to commet suisideThem are really the only 2 ways.
Quote from: reaper on December 06, 2006, 11:07:49 PMQuote from: [btf]deathstalkerI hear ya. But that really doesn't bother me near as much as the peole that "DO" believe in God, but choose not to folow him or accept him.if god exists, and there is an afterlife and judges me negativley, then he was not the god i wanted to follow in the first place, so .. so be itHow could he judge you negativley if you followd his teachings. That's all he is asking.And if someone doesn't "know" about his teachings they will most ceartainly be "informed" about them after the second coming. Really, the only way to be judged negativeley is to "know" he and jesus exsists and "still" turn them down.Or to commet suisideThem are really the only 2 ways.
Quote from: [BTF]DeathStalker on December 06, 2006, 11:18:04 PMHow could he judge you negativley if you followd his teachings. That's all he is asking.And if someone doesn't "know" about his teachings they will most ceartainly be "informed" about them after the second coming. Really, the only way to be judged negativeley is to "know" he and jesus exsists and "still" turn them down.Or to commet suisideThem are really the only 2 ways.But this would only make sense if you were one of those folks who believed their particular chosen mythology was the One True Mythology.What about all the other folks who believe their sacred texts represent the One True Mythology?
Geez, you gona pull all that out.Am I gona have to pull out everything that Jesus taught.That's a bunch of Old Testoment stuff. Jesus rebuked all of that.
1. The big bang:Put a stick of Dynamite in the middle of the street. Pile on top of it metal, screws, glass, plastic, bolts, nuts, rubber, and anything else you think should be on it. Light the fuse and let it explode. Do you have a brand new shiny car ? Hell no !!! You've got a really large pile of junk that's just been scattered everywhere by the explosion.
Quote from: c1rcu1try on December 06, 2006, 10:31:59 PMThis is a fallacy. God cannot love everyone and send people to hell at the same time. Also, if he loved us he wouldn't let us suffer.First of all, God doesn't send anyone to Hell. People choose it, weather knowingly or not. But all will have one last chance to avoid it after the 2nd coming.Secondly, I will gladly suffer, it makes me a stonger person. What doesn't kill me makes me stronger. Also, suffering on earth is a result of Satin, he want people to say what you just said. He likes it.Not only that, ask anyone that is a "true" believer how much they suffered before coming to God.
This is a fallacy. God cannot love everyone and send people to hell at the same time. Also, if he loved us he wouldn't let us suffer.
Do you know how I "know" these things?It's the Holy Spirit. You can actually "feel" it. When he speeks to you, you can "feel" that it's him talking.
Since we can't have each other's exact experiences, there doesn't seem to be a conclusive refutation for that.
How could he judge you negativley if you followd his teachings. That's all he is asking.
Quote from: c1rcu1try on December 06, 2006, 11:57:49 PMDo you know how I "know" these things?It's the Holy Spirit. You can actually "feel" it. When he speeks to you, you can "feel" that it's him talking.When you have the Holy Spirit, you have a direct link to God. In computer terms, it would be what you would consider a direct private IP address.Or his phone # perhaps. It is a direct link to him.
Quote from: [BTF]DeathStalker on December 07, 2006, 12:28:15 AMDo you know how I "know" these things?It's the Holy Spirit. You can actually "feel" it. When he speeks to you, you can "feel" that it's him talking.Yeah, but...Quote from: quadz on November 27, 2006, 01:26:05 PMSince we can't have each other's exact experiences, there doesn't seem to be a conclusive refutation for that. All I can think to say is that our brains are all constructed similarly, and there are bound to be many folks out there having similar experiences. It seems a safe bet that even if we could all have the exact same experience that convinced one person of God's existence beyond doubt, there would be others who interpreted the experience differently and arrived at different conclusions.I.e. I expect I do have the same category of experience you're alluding to, yet while you interpret it as God talking to you, I would interpret the experience differently.
Since we can't have each other's exact experiences, there doesn't seem to be a conclusive refutation for that. All I can think to say is that our brains are all constructed similarly, and there are bound to be many folks out there having similar experiences. It seems a safe bet that even if we could all have the exact same experience that convinced one person of God's existence beyond doubt, there would be others who interpreted the experience differently and arrived at different conclusions.
as you said quadz. or should i say godz. :>