Extraterrestrial Intelligence

[Mammal]

Well, yes, I do think life can be created in a lab when your "lab" is all the world's oceans with a few asteroids and comets thrown in for good measure.

Mix it all up for a couple of billion years and surely you would come up with something resembling a primitive string of DNA, don't you think?

In fact, I think it would be more incredible if you didn't.

By the way, don't assume that human life is so special. Our DNA is actually made up of a fairly simple amalgam of naturally occurring sugars and phosphates. In all the vastness of the oceans over all those billions of years, don't you think it possible that some of those molecules, somewhere, might just have married up by chance?

I don't know about you, but I don't think that the structure of my DNA is much more special than that of a snowflake. And you can't tell me that your god is creating each and every single snowflake as it falls, surely.

Otherwise, why isn't He focusing His attention on all the little kids dying of cancer or starvation. Wouldn't you think that's more important?

Regards

[0rbisson]

Well, yes, I do think life can be created in a lab when your "lab"
Regards

One problem, it's never been done. Show me any source from anyone credible that life has been created from non living material in a lab.

Mix it all up for a couple of billion years and surely you would come up with something resembling a primitive string of DNA, don't you think?

Always need plenty of time don't we? Billions of years! Why billions? why not a week, why not 4 years? So you truly believe when biology text books say it rained on a rock for millions of years and it eventually became soup and pond scum sprung forth?

A singularity so minuscule small that created itself which then expanded itself with no cause, created time space and matter.

Then you think we are not so complex, So if we evolved from pond scum to fish then from monkeys, how can you trust your own reasoning? Come on tubby.

reminds me of Peter 2 3:5

That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant .

I think you are being deliberately ignorant trying to take an intelligent creator out of the picture. Scientist have spent billions of dollars trying to find the origin of life, Even building the hardron Collider to try and get something from nothing, And after all that money, All that time, All that effort guess what?? THEY STILL CANT GET SOMETHING FROM NOTHING.

They are trying so desperately hard to take GOD out of the picture..Why? For the same reason a thief runs from a police officer. They don't want to repent of thier wickedness, because they enjoy thier own selfish ways They are rubbing thier hands together "lets get GOD out of the way, lets try prove he doesnt exist. There is just one problem....

The majority arent always right. If everyone voted to suspend the law of gravity, it doesnt mean gravity will cease to exist. think about it tubby

[Mammal]

Well, life is composed of chemicals, so I guess it's reasonable to say that it originated from chemicals.

And as I have said elsewhere, we humans shouldn't think that we're too special. After all, a snowflake is a pretty complex chemical structure, too. Are you going to tell me that god is up there designing every unique snowflake that falls? Maybe he should spend more time stopping the little kids he created from getting cancer or being beaten to death by their parents.

Also, are our physical (chemical) bodies really all that great when they so frequently succumb to such things as cancer, accidents, infectious diseases, genetic mutations, and ultimately old age?

Why would god create us only to have us suffer from all that, when he could (supposedly) prevent it?

Even if god were proven tomorrow, I'm not really sure that I would want to worship him.

[0rbisson]

Well, life is composed of chemicals, so I guess it's reasonable to say that it originated from chemicals.

Prove it then. Show me the evidence. I want to see scientific lab results where this has been achieved over and over again with the same result. if you can't do this then i guess your evolution is nothing but a religion isn't it? it's what you BELIEVE happened, not what has proven to have happened. your GOD is a rock. All HAIL the ROCK 

I openly admit my belief in a creator is a religious belief, I have a real problem with evolution being taught as actual fact when its nothing but a religion too. Not FACT

So now we have established that, One has to be wrong.  Both can't be right. i will take an intelligent designer any day over a rock being rained on for millions of years that came from nothing.

[Mammal]

Why do you suddenly need lab results?

Doesn't God do it for you anymore?

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe in Voodoo? If not, why not? Voodoo is actually syncretic with the Christian faith. So using your argument, you ought to be happy about animal sacrifice and ancestor worship. Not that I would judge you for that because I'm atheist and really don't care what you do, just as long as you don't hurt anybody else.

[0rbisson]

Why do you suddenly need lab results?

Ummm maybe because that is what REAL science is? Doing and experiement getting the same result over and over to get the same result which concludes scientific FACTS

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe in Voodoo? If not, why not? Voodoo is actually syncretic with the Christian faith.

Ummm no it's not? LOL what bible have you been reading?

you ought to be happy about animal sacrifice and ancestor worship.

GOD has  permitted the eating of lesser flesh (Certain Animals) which is why i scratch my head at vegans getting outraged over killing of animals for food. GOD created them so if he says its ok then So what? Who are vegans protesting to and who against?

They would be protesting against GOD? Just like the gay community do? Why do they protest If GOD doesn't exist? why are they so angry and who at? Maybe they know they are doing the wrong thing

[Mammal]

You're just cherry-picking the parts of the Bible that agree with. Your Bible says just what you want it to say.

Your Bible says it's okay to enslave black men. Do you agree with that? If not, why not? Your Bible promotes it. Your Bible also says to burn live cows and goats on the alter, and to dash their blood all around the alter. In fact, there needed to be 2 channels leading out from the Temple to the valley of Kidron to carry out all the bloody waste from all those animal sacrifices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidron_Valley).

None of this endears me to any God. Yours, or any other's.

[0rbisson]

Tubby it appears you are the one cherry picking things out of the bible you don't like. And I know this because you have no idea about the bible which shows in your attempt to discredit it without realizing how wrong you actually are. Jesus hated racism. Are you not aware GODs people are the Jews? Are you not aware Jesus was the king of the Jews who happen to be the most persecuted people on the face of the globe? Have you not read how GOD taught pharaoh of Egypt a lesson for holding people captive and in REAL slavery? Jesus  taught to love your neighbor as yourself and as for sinners he said let he without sin cast the first stone, So he was pretty much saying we are all guilty of sin.

the great news is Jesus sacrificed his perfect self for us all. he who asks for forgiveness and believe in his heart the Lord is the son of man and was raised from the dead shall be saved. that's all there is to it. it's very very simple. you dont have to sacrifice anything to do this simple act. People think salvation is works based and that is totally false. I could go into the whole rightly deviding the word of GOD but I am sure you are capable of your own research instead of reading something you find offensive about the bible without having true understanding and context.

 BTW the word slave means servant in hebrew just so you know. If you work for a wage, you are a servant. Unlike pharoah of Egypt who held the Jews in captivity

[Sgt. Dick]

you ought to be happy about animal sacrifice

I do enjoy a good steak 

[Mammal]

"the great news is Jesus sacrificed his perfect self for us all"

Tell that to the people dying in the cancer ward, war victims, rape victims, people dying from infectious diseases, starvation, lack of shelter, etc.

Where is your Jesus for them?

[0rbisson]

Tubby you would know if you actually read the bible properly. When Adam and Eve rebelled against GOD sin entered the world at that point. Because GOD had given humans free will, He stepped back and said ok you don't want me, here is life without me. Death, destruction, kaos, Disorder, Lawlessness, Murder etc. Satan is the king of this world currently.

Jesus said we will go through tribulations, it's not going to be a rosie ride. Look at what the romans did to him. He was tortured, brutalized but thank GOD that happened because it gave us a door to eternal life. When Jesus died his final words were "It is finished". Jesus died forgiving his enemies


Isaiah

Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done.

John

f the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. (And isn't that true today people hate Jesus for no reason)

John
 Jesus said...
f ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

and what was his commandments?

Not the 10 commandments but Jesus commandment was...

This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Jesus healed the sick, fed the poor, Rebuked the wickidness of this world, even stood face to face with Satan himself. He was tortured brutalized by the romans. All so that we might be saved. Why would you hate a guy like that? people do though because they don't get it. They attack the bible without realizing how wrong they are about things.

Is the end near? Read on and you will find out....

False christs will come saying I am the christ (There are some loonies out there right now who claim this)
there will be wars, rumors of wars, pestilence (Also means diseases) famine, lawlessness, wild weather And these things will increase in severerity as we get closer to the end, Like a woman giving birth the labor pangs will increase. Are we in that time now? Lets look at this....

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

So what you need to know is the figtree is a parable of Isreal. without going into a full blown bible study, the figtree generation started in 1948 when Isreal was reborn (As GOD had prophesied and promised) God says this generation shall not pass before his return. A generation is 70 years or 80 years for reason of strength. So that brings us to 2028. there is a 7 year tribulation period which means tribulation should start in 2022. Are you prepared?

The mark of the beast you shall not buy or sell without the mark in the end times. Does this sound familiar what you are seeing on the news right now with the vaccine? They are even using the exact wording you will not buy or sell. Not saying the vaccine is the mark but it is leading to it. If you take this mark there will be no forgivness. Are you going to take it?

Also tubby where does your objection to murder rape and sickness come from? Is it your own reasoning? If it is then why if someone who loves raping and murdering wrong? Where does your moral objection come from? If morals are relative, dont get upset at the rapist who likes to rape. We are all just a bunch of chemicals right?

[Sharxigan]

Hello Mammal, here are some of my favourite Christian YouTube channels, they're pretty good at explaining Bible stuff.

Wretched

Robert Breaker

Grace to You


Also... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin

[Mammal]

Ah, Adam and Eve.

I really love this. So two people condemned the rest of humanity (billions of men, women, and children) to suffer and die because they ate an apple.

That sounds more like something a devil would do, not a god.

Seriously, why would you want to worship a god like that?

[Sgt. Dick]

Ah, Adam and Eve.

I really love this. So two people condemned the rest of humanity (billions of men, women, and children)

Your only one person - enough said.

[Mammal]

Ah, Adam and Eve.

I really love this. So two people condemned the rest of humanity (billions of men, women, and children)

Your only one person - enough said.

Jesus was only one person too.

Actually, I also prefer to do my own thing too because other people just tend to fuck up everything I try to do, whether they intend to or not.