phong in Quake 2

[Jaeon]

I use Trenchbroom for editing. In Quake 1 I can make a brush func_detail then as an entity I can create a property "_phong" and assign a value. In Quake 2 I cannot assign  func_detail to a brush. Thus I cannot use phong in a similar manner. I use arghrad for light which supports phong. Does anyone know how to assign phong in TB in Q2 with arghrad? Thanks

[gr13v3]

give the surfaces a light value (not important which, but the same for all brushes that belong together),
but do not set the light flag !

this should tell arghrad to use phong - shading.

[gr13v3]

 

you're welcome ! too bad I can't help you with this .....

 

[Jaeon]

 

you're welcome ! too bad I can't help you with this .....

 

I have many things I do during the day and only so much time for this. Nothing in your post was helpful. I tried what you suggested and it did not work in any way, shape or form that I tried it. If you have more specific info please share it. You should not assume prior knowledge of a topic when you are giving help. Being as specific as you can is always a good thing. If what you posted is all you have then it's wrong.  Thank you for the reply and I would have got back to you on my schedule not yours

[gr13v3]

@Jaeon,
the statement you quoted was not addressed to you, it was for focalor .... lol 

so phong shading didn't work for you ?
the arghrad - readme says :

ArghRad can use phong shading to simulate curved surfaces.  This
option is assigned to individual faces.  To make ArghRad use phong
shading on a face, give it a light value, but do NOT set the light
flag.  That face will be smoothed together with all touching faces
that have the same value.  Think of this value as a "curve ID tag".
Try to use unique values for unconnected curves because that will
speed up compiling.

as I told you .....
maybe you overlooked something ?
that's all I can tell.

have a nice day m8 !

[Jaeon]

@Jaeon,
the statement you quoted was not addressed to you, it was for focalor .... lol 

so phong shading didn't work for you ?
the arghrad - readme says :

ArghRad can use phong shading to simulate curved surfaces.  This
option is assigned to individual faces.  To make ArghRad use phong
shading on a face, give it a light value, but do NOT set the light
flag.  That face will be smoothed together with all touching faces
that have the same value.  Think of this value as a "curve ID tag".
Try to use unique values for unconnected curves because that will
speed up compiling.

as I told you .....
maybe you overlooked something ?
that's all I can tell.

have a nice day m8 !

Thanks for the clarifier. ArghRad needs something more. I compared phong in Q1 and Q2 on the same surface. Thanks!!

[Jaeon]

give the surfaces a light value (not important which, but the same for all brushes that belong together),
but do not set the light flag !

this should tell arghrad to use phong - shading.

I did find this:

"It features phong shading, emitting light from brush entities, more realistic directional sunlight, special checking in order to prevent light "bleeding" through solids etc.

Hammer/J.A.C.K./Sledge and Trenchbroom users: this will require a modified FGD file. Add keyvalues manually until then, or edit your own"

Which I don't understand

[gr13v3]

unfortunately I'm not familiar with Trenchbroom or the others, I use QuArC.
can't tell you about editing FGD files.

[Jaeon]

unfortunately I'm not familiar with Trenchbroom or the others, I use QuArC.
can't tell you about editing FGD files.

If you mean Quark I have used that extensively. It is a good editor

[|iR|Focalor]

@Jaeon,
the statement you quoted was not addressed to you, it was for focalor .... lol 

And mine was at jaeon.

[gr13v3]

@Focalor :  ok, sorry then.   

@Jaeon : yep, quark is a great tool. a bit buggy maybe, but you can deal with that. the concept of the *quark - explorer* to organize your files, the convenient texture browser, the shape builder macros and other stuff makes this a useable program to create maps.

 

[Jaeon]

@Focalor :  ok, sorry then.   

@Jaeon : yep, quark is a great tool. a bit buggy maybe, but you can deal with that. the concept of the *quark - explorer* to organize your files, the convenient texture browser, the shape builder macros and other stuff makes this a useable program to create maps.

 

It's the bugs that kill it. They are not small or few. And I like learning editors almost as much as I like making maps.

[Jaeon]

@Jaeon,
the statement you quoted was not addressed to you, it was for focalor .... lol 

And mine was at jaeon.

Unhappy and angry people are generally mean as well. Being helpful is a positive. If you tried it your life could change.

Pictured is Tom Lester who played Eb Dawson on the 60's sitcom "Green Acres" Eb takes a correspondence course. This picture and the show makes me laugh.

[|iR|Focalor]

Unhappy and angry people are generally mean as well. Being helpful is a positive. If you tried it your life could change.

Uh...

And being an asshole when I'm just making a joke is still just being an asshole. Because... I'm a guy, and guys have a penis. So when I say your avatar makes my pussy dry, obviously I'm making an absurd statement expressing how jarringly and comically not attractive your crossdressing man-person in your avatar is. Does that help?

One more point before I go...

I have many things I do during the day and only so much time for this.... If what you posted is all you have then it's wrong.  Thank you for the reply and I would have got back to you on my schedule not yours

And being an asshole when someone is TRYING to be helpful is still just being an asshole.

Seriously, I don't know why he bothered continuing to try to help you after that, cupcake.

But like you advised...

Being helpful is a positive. If you tried it your life could change.

Okay. Hope this helps change your life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOHCtQfFn7E

[gr13v3]

I have many things I do during the day and only so much time for this. Nothing in your post was helpful. I tried what you suggested and it did not work in any way, shape or form that I tried it. If you have more specific info please share it. You should not assume prior knowledge of a topic when you are giving help. Being as specific as you can is always a good thing. If what you posted is all you have then it's wrong.  Thank you for the reply and I would have got back to you on my schedule not yours

I didn't take that personal, it was a misunderstanding ....