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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2018, 11:56:26 PM »
Logitech G502 proteus spectrum optical gaming mouse

I have been using it for about a couple of months now. So far so good.
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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 08:07:56 PM »
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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2018, 09:37:49 PM »
I was using the Logitech G303 until it started having an issue where it would double-click constantly (when simply trying to single left-click). I contacted Logitech (it was still under warranty) and they sent me out a new G403. I've been using that for a few weeks I suppose. I'm not sure what DPI setting I have it on. I use sensitivity of 4 in game. I'm pretty sure it's running at 1000Hz via the USB port. Not sure what other info there is to share. Oh, I use this massive Corsair mouse mat/pad. Not sure of the model number, but it's the one that's about 3 feet wide, which also holds your keyboard. I like it a lot.
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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2018, 05:47:54 AM »
Logitech tends go with the cheapest option available when it comes to the pots, and mechanical switches they use in their products. These have raw untreated copper contacts that corrode overtime when exposed to oxygen not to mention all the other pubes, sweat, and cheeto crumbs introduced during your intense fragging(fapping) sessions. Kind of a bummer as they have great design, and use solid optical sensors otherwise.
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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2018, 02:08:41 PM »
I disagree. They ALL make them equally shitty. I've got a Razor Deathadder that I was stupid enough to pay about 90 bucks for. However... since all these companies have discontinued their cheaper corded laser mouses and rebranded them as "gaming mice", they can now charge you 100 bucks and up for a couple of additional buttons and fancier colors on a mouse that used to cost less than 25 bucks back in 2007. I was stupid enough to pay 90-something dollars for a Razor Deathadder probably 3 or 4 years ago, but it's not like there were any other options. I had to pay that if I wanted a laser (not optical or anything else) mouse with a fucking cord on it.

And for all of Razer's talk about using quality components... it's mostly bullshit. Their clicker modules are very accurate, but they don't last as long as they should for that price. Mine's not that old, and I've already experienced the "phantom double click" problem Punk described. I took the mouse apart and cleaned the copper contacts with q-tips and an aerosol can of fast-dry electrical contact cleaner, and it HAS stopped double clicking and phantom clicking, however the button pressure/tension/whatever is nothing like it used to be. The feel is not what it used to be. Sometimes when I hit the middle wheel to crouch, I end up pressing mouse1 and firing too... which sucks if you're holding a rocket launcher at the time.

But I'll be damned if I'm gonna spend another 100 bucks on an overpriced overrated mouse while there's ANY LIFE AT ALL left in this mouse.

PS. if you have a Razer Deathadder, I would NOT recommend taking it apart to manually clean the clicker modules. It was VERY DIFFICULT. There's tiny parts which require a steady hand and some fine point tweezers to put them back in properly. Attempting to take the clicker modules apart could result in permanent damage to the small components. Try to google a step by step method before attempting.
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Re: What mouse are you using?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2018, 04:42:24 PM »
I wasn't done ranting, but my flight started boarding.. Now I'm back!  :rocketright:

What a better mouse WILL do is have a higher polling rate and improved fine accuracy when compared to a cheaper shittier mouse with worse specs.

USB has 100x the bandwidth needed to handle mousing duties. The difference between and good mouse and a shitty one is the on-board processor. Optical mice are essentially cameras that take and compare pictures to interpret motion. Older examples didn't have the ability to process this on-board the mouse itself and this duty was shared with your PC. This is where polling rates came into play, now that it's all done on chip at the mouse polling rates are largely irrelevant. Any good HID chip will be polling over USB as fast as possible (1000hz for 1ms response time in most cases)

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I'm partial to mouses with invisible lasers rather than those optical or infrared ones. They emit a light, and if you use the mouse without a mousepad on a naked laminated desk surface, it can cause the optical sensor to feedback and freak out randomly.

Had that happen to me more times than I care to remember way back when I used an optical mouse. At this point, I've been scrubbing a mouse over this desktop so long, most the glossy lamination is gone and there's actually a portion where the particle board fibers are exposed. :D This desk looks like a total piece of junked shit after 10 years of heavy use.



Lasers are less prone be disturbed by anomalies like reflections compared to traditional optical sensors this is why they tend to work better on shiny surfaces. Most have moved on to infrared sensors these days anyway, this is why you're not seeing that light under your mouse anymore. A good infrared sensor will track on anything short of an electropolished surface. ( <10μm variance)

Thanks to advances in manufacturing technologies imaging sensors have gotten cheaper, and algorithms have gotten better, therefore you can spec a superior sensor capable of capturing higher resolution, and have a faster processor handling things. When you see XXX "gaming mouse" they always advertise DPI ratings first. This being better is a bit of a false statement alone. No-one uses 15-gazallion DPI setting, as the mouse would be interpreting tracking at such a great distance per movement it would be unusable. This get's scaled up or down at some point with different DPI settings. But in general mice true high dpi ratings have superior processors, and error correction algorithms which are less prone to spazzing out during fast flick movements like railing, or other movements such as lifts. I just wish they would give relevant details like sensor megapixel values, or processing speeds, etc

I disagree. They ALL make them equally shitty. I've got a Razor Deathadder that I was stupid enough to pay about 90 bucks for.

We're not disagreeing.  :humm: Razor makes a shit product along with many others. What you end up paying for is largely marketing, and in their case software development. Their mice mechanically are the same as your $20 logitech. They do tend to use better off the shelf hardware for things like cables, and switches however but their mechanical design is largely fluffy garbage. The quality switches I mentioned have zinc plated contact surfaces which aren't susceptible to corrosion. These and will outlast the the rest of the mouse plus another 20 years in the ocean.

I guess my whole point is that we were developing optical sensors that will track faster, and more accurately on any surface than any of us fragerts can move our fappin appendages and this was >10 years ago. Pick the mouse that fits your meat mitten the best and play more. I recommend Corsair, Steel Series, and yes some Razors if you want the best sensors. (pixelart, keyance)
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2018, 10:20:14 AM »
i got a Roccat Kone Pure that can do some damage
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