Author Topic: #straight (Read 89862 times)

Godz · « **Reply #195 on:** November 17, 2006, 12:58:03 PM »

DaHanG,

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.
William G. McAdoo (1863 - 1941)

Regards,

godz

DaHanG · « **Reply #196 on:** November 17, 2006, 12:58:57 PM »

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DaHanG · « **Reply #197 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:03:32 PM »

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on November 17, 2006, 12:56:40 PM

nothing is universally understood, and people don't really understand shit in the first place.
we think we know whats up, but as a species we really have no fucking clue as to what the hell is happening on a "universal" scale. I don't claim to either.

something we can all observe and agree upon is the context used to define 'universal' in my previous post.

nothing is universally understood? i beg to differ. the grass is green, for example, is universally understood. how you define 'green' is a philosophical question, and a separate matter. we all know that if an animal is running, one way or another it chose to run. if anybody of any sexual orientation decides to have sex , we know they chose to do so (excluding rape again).

jägermonsta · « **Reply #198 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:08:36 PM »

Quote from: DaHanG on November 17, 2006, 12:58:57 PM

where does grammar play a role?

the categorizing of 'metaphorical' actually wasn't the core problem. the problem was the statement without any basis of reasoning ie: "it will happen, just wait!"

Wow... what are you on man?

The categorizing of metaphorical was what you 'defeated' me at.

I believe everyone at some point will be effected negatively by a gay person at some point in their life. It's my belief, you don't have to believe it.

DaHanG · « **Reply #199 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:13:55 PM »

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Whirlingdervish · « **Reply #200 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:15:29 PM »

Quote from: DaHanG on November 17, 2006, 01:03:32 PM

nothing is universally understood? i beg to differ. the grass is green, for example, is universally understood. how you define 'green' is a philosophical question, and a separate matter. we all know that if an animal is running, one way or another it chose to run. if anybody of any sexual orientation decides to have sex , we know they chose to do so (excluding rape again).

"Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance."
- Will Durant

apparently you've never shot a deer and watched it run away for 200 yards while entirely braindead.
how could it choose without it's choosing apparatus?

If you sneeze, did you choose to?

and on the subject of grass, my grass is purple.
and sticky.

DaHanG · « **Reply #201 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:20:10 PM »

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on November 17, 2006, 01:15:29 PM

Quote from: DaHanG on November 17, 2006, 01:03:32 PM
nothing is universally understood? i beg to differ. the grass is green, for example, is universally understood. how you define 'green' is a philosophical question, and a separate matter. we all know that if an animal is running, one way or another it chose to run. if anybody of any sexual orientation decides to have sex , we know they chose to do so (excluding rape again).

"Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance."
- Will Durant

apparently you've never shot a deer and watched it run away for 200 yards while entirely braindead.
how could it choose without it's choosing aparatus?

If you sneeze, did you choose to?

and on the subject of grass, my grass is purple.
and sticky.

i did not say anything in motion has a conscious motive behind it.

jägermonsta · « **Reply #202 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:20:23 PM »

That's fine! Believe what you want!

Anyhow how, this was a good way to pass a Friday at work! Thanks for stepping in DaHanG and sharing your insight on the topic. I see where you stand, you see where I stand. Great! Mission Accomplished.

You're a smart kid Dahang, fairly smarter then I in some areas. You seem like a very fair person given your stance here and that's respectable. I enjoyed our debate or whatever this HUGE waste of time was today. Thanks!

Cya Monday!

Art · « **Reply #203 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:21:33 PM »

Quote from: Godz on November 17, 2006, 12:58:03 PM

DaHanG,

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.
William G. McAdoo (1863 - 1941)
Regards,
godz

How many logins do these stooges have?

Whirlingdervish · « **Reply #204 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:27:46 PM »

Quote from: DaHanG on November 17, 2006, 01:03:32 PM

we all know that if an animal is running, one way or another it chose to run.

unless, of course, the act of running was an involuntary physical reaction.

this is what I was getting at.
All actions are not choice driven.

people having sex is a choice driven action.

when you make a choice to commit an action, you are responsible for that action, not the things that led to you making any certain choice.

Now take this and apply it to the observation that many gay people and people who support gay rights, act as though gays have no choice when it comes to having gay sex with each other because of their sexual orientation.

DaHanG · « **Reply #205 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:34:56 PM »

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on November 17, 2006, 01:27:46 PM

Quote from: DaHanG on November 17, 2006, 01:03:32 PM
we all know that if an animal is running, one way or another it chose to run.
unless, of course, the act of running was an involuntary physical reaction.

yes, the idea of a chicken running around with it's head off slipped my mind. the point is some things are universally understood. hopefully a simple example: when you are hungry, you desire food. people understand that gays choose to have sex with the same gender, and it is not worth pointing out.

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on November 17, 2006, 01:27:46 PM

Now take this and apply it to the observation that many gay people and people who support gay rights, act as though gays have no choice when it comes to having gay sex with each other because of their sexual orientation.

how do they act that they have no right to gay sex? civil rights do not interfere with intimate gay sex to my knowledge. gay sex in public, perhaps

.

Whirlingdervish · « **Reply #206 on:** November 17, 2006, 02:47:18 PM »

any sane adult human in our country is allowed, by right, to have sexual relations with any other consenting adult of either gender. gay sex and civil rights are not what I was talking about.

the point is, they have a choice, they made their choice, and now they are practicing faggots (bundles of sticks) as a result of it.
If they want to skip around like fairies(pun intended) and pretend that they are gay cause god/DNA/society made them that way, then they are totally full of shit and I am not going to believe that shit even if a bunch of people do. They are gay because they've had sex with a person of their gender by choice, not because they think men are sexier than women, or the other way around.

I can think about killing people all day and it doesn't make me a murderer.

I don't see sexual preference as a defining factor in deciding who is gay and who is not.
If it is a trait that you have in your DNA, that makes you like men, it's not the DNA's fault if you screw a dude.
It's yours for choosing to.
A society that accepts gay people as equals might make it easier for people to make choices that lead to being gay, but that society is not at fault for those people's gayness.

the personal interpretations of ones own breeding instincts might have something to do with making conscious choices that result in homosexual actions, but they are not the thing that decides if a person is gay.

the actions that are the result of those choices are the one thing that defines people as homosexual.

in conclusion, I believe:

If you consider having sex with a person of the same sex, you aren't gay.
If you have sex with them, you are gay. (by choice)
If you are gay, then you committed a homosexual act, and your choice to do so is the only thing responsible for you being gay.

You are responsible for the choices you make.

not your instincts, or your DNA, or your sexual preference, or society, or your gay partner.

DaHanG · « **Reply #207 on:** November 17, 2006, 02:56:04 PM »

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on November 17, 2006, 02:47:18 PM

in conclusion, I believe:

If you consider having sex with a person of the same sex, you aren't gay.
If you have sex with them, you are gay. (by choice)
If you are gay, then you committed a homosexual act, and your choice to do so is the only thing responsible for you being gay.

You are responsible for the choices you make.

not your instincts, or your DNA, or your sexual preference, or society, or your gay partner.

what's your point?

Whirlingdervish · « **Reply #208 on:** November 17, 2006, 02:59:59 PM »

gay people need to own up to their choices and not bitch about being downtrodden for something they fucking choose to do!
they also need to stop trying to play it off like they had no choice. because they did and they chose.

they chose to be actively gay. its that simple.
the may have been born sexually confused and with a different sexual orientation, but they made themself gay by acting on them.

If I chose to run around in the street, I would deserve the repercussions (probably spelled wrong, who cares?) of that action.
I couldn't blame the cars for hitting me, and likewise, I don't blame our anti-gay society for looking down on gay people.
It's not like this has been a change that occurred overnight!

people have thought gay people were icky for a long ass time, and I'm sure this isn't a surprise to every gay person in the world. They knew the cars were in the street, they chose to run out there anyways.

mik3D · « **Reply #209 on:** November 17, 2006, 03:09:22 PM »

lol since we are talking about FAGGETS look at this tranny pic

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