Open letter to Quake 2 fam (servers dying fast)

[|iR|Focalor]

If you advertise it correctly and it's for a decent amount say a couple hundred dollars for the grand prize

200 dollars!?! You done lost yo damn mind! My GTA Online MC does poker runs with a prize of a 5 dollar Xbox code mainly to get new prospects interested and more involved in playing as a crew so hopefully they'll play more and become solid full members of the crew. And it kinda works. So no need to promise anyone 200+ bucks. That's just ridiculous. I'm sure 10 or 20 bucks would work just as well.

[haunted]

It would have to be 2,000, not 200, total prize pool for 1v1, 2v2, or ra2. 60/30/10 payout (1st/2nd/3rd) or so and expect donations to make the prize pool bigger for top 8. 1v1 would probably be the biggest draw in the long run even if "more" people want 2v2 or ra2. I'd donate 200 myself but it ain't happening.

[Barton]

It is quite possible that IDsoftware might hold a Q2-themed esports tournament at Quakecon next year, since 2017 will be Q2's 20th anniversary, as IDsoftware did to celebrate Quake and Doom's 20th anniversary. Who knows though since Q2 is the black sheep of the Quake series, at least considered by Q3 players. 

[ex]

Q2 the black sheep of the series?  Blasphemy!   

When I wrote this post originally, I was just thinking about doing fun nights for certain mods, kinda like ACMEctf does on Sundays (usually get a group going in the later evening for a few hours).  Just want to make sure we can keep this game going.  There are other games out there I've played, but Q2 has always been epic and fun as shit for me.

But now that the topic is moving to a tourney, well hell yeah!  I don't know which mod would be best... maybe ra2??  If it is possible to get enough people involved, I'm in for sure!  I just don't want it dwindle into nothing like the last one did.  So maybe the cash prize thing would be a good incentive.  Dunno what would be reasonable.  Just not something absurd like what haunted said... $2000 total pool?  Who could put that kinda cash up?  Maybe haunted.   

Even if it's just for fun like the last one, it would be good to have an organized thing happen again.  The current state of pure random ffa'ing, with the occasional 1v1 or ra2 gets kinda stale.

BTW, in response to Rick, I've never run a ladder/tourney myself so I don't know what would be involved.  I wouldn't mind helping out if you are serious about doing it.

Input from anyone on the best setup/mod/prizes etc. would work, and maybe anyone who's willing to play.  Just to get a feel for the heartbeat of the community.  :>

[haunted]

There's no way I'd put up 2,000. And even though an ra2 tourney would be great and fun in theory, it wouldn't bring q2 attention. I wish it could. I wish 2v2 or 4v4 tdm could bring the hype a duel tourney with a big prize pool but there's no way. It's not my preference, just my opinion on the reality of it. But that doesn't mean you can't try to host something small, for fun, and to promote activity by a tad.

I had a pretty good 2v2 tournament setup 4 years ago. I decided to throw in 250 myself and had 5 donations from others. The condition was that 8 teams minimum sign up. The teams were me and adrenaline, Naymlis and dahang, ah and pyr3x, fader and kickr0, Barton and chief, etc. Even with those teams you could have a good tournament but as the TO I made the poor choice of teaming with my frequent 2v2 partner which discouraged 4-5 people from competing, seemingly. They blamed it on me being a terrible admin.

[johnny]

Thanks, quadz!

 

I love the DM server, but playing Q2DM1-8 can get boring fast. Would it out of the the question to add some of the vanilla server maps to the DM one? I noticed there is a group of regulars that play on the vanilla server but mostly during the daytime. Later in the day the vanilla server is empty with the exception of a few lurkers here and there. Would be nice to merge those vanilla server players with the
DM ones.

So it was discussed but never implemented and tested? Do the majority of DM players frequent the forums? I doubt it.. that's why I think an in-game voting system would be useful.

The DM server's original charter was to play DM1-8 maps only. The server was created because people specifically requested that configuration. And it became popular.

Of course, some players who frequent the server would prefer adding some custom maps. But others prefer it says DM1-8. It's indeed been discussed from multiple points of view over the years.

As a compromise, there are a number of custom maps available on the server, but WallFly spaces them out so that a minimum of five DM maps play between custom maps.

The current 'mymap' list for DM is: aerowalk bloodrun campgrounds dkshaft frdm3 fury grom_dm3 grunt hammer match1 ohmdm3 q2rdm13 rene24 rvndm1 tastydm2 torment trdm04a ven_dm2 ztn2dm2 ztn2dm3 ztn2dm4

I know some vanilla/campaign maps are not ideal for DM but a lot are great for it. Perhaps another possibility is a voting system for maps? One time I 'mymap'ed jail1 on the vanilla server and and few guys hated the map. I felt bad for picking it despite the fact that it was a popular DM map back in the day and still enjoyable (to me) today. But having a voting system would help avoid people clearing out a server.  Another example was when we played FACT3 and there were too many players for such a small map according to some guys which pissed them off.

These days, WallFly skips playing some larger maps if it can't detect enough active players on the server. This was mainly added to help stop some maps from emptying out the server.

On the other hand, two days ago we were like 8 ppl playing in vanilla, and after few maps  Q2dm4 came, and suddenly the server got empty! I think im not the only one voting to remove the q2dm maps from vanilla rotation.. everyone complains about it there.

And yeah , the only q2dm map the vanilla server should have on rotation is q2dm8 IMHO..  Hehe

I suspect it might be fine to remove the DM maps from the default vanilla rotation.

Done.

(They're still available via 'mymap'.)


Regards,

quadz

[BIG DICK RICK]

I had a pretty good 2v2 tournament setup 4 years ago. I decided to throw in 250 myself and had 5 donations from others.

Wasn't this just a one and done ordeal?  I didn't pay much attention to tdm etc as I was fucking horrible at it. 

[haunted]

Yeah that was the expectation. A repeat would've been wishful thinking, but who knows. The teams that signed up were AWESOME for usa. I honestly didn't know who would win out of the top 3. It would've been great but we couldn't even get 8 damn teams.

[Muerte]

I don't have the time for q2 anymore.

plz 

http://q2scene.net/edl/

Whole league of retired players who dont have time to play so become "weekend warriors" playing only on Sunday evening

1st round of playoffs in all 3div around 20cet on next Sunday 

[BIG DICK RICK]

If someone tried something that was recurring constantly to keep peoples attention and some being cash prizes when possible or giveaways, I think it would be a good success.  Might not be huge, but it might be enough to carry this game on for another 10 years(I know that's being pretty optimistic) but I could only hope someone gave this game CPR.  It would be nice to be able to hop onto ra2 when I have a few free minutes instead of having to play 12am-4am only. 

I mean, if someone has a better idea(won't take much), go ahead and post it and lets see if ex can pull it off.  He's worried about the game, so he should be in charge to see this through.  It's win/win imo.

[haunted]

I don't have the time for q2 anymore.

plz 

http://q2scene.net/edl/

Whole league of retired players who dont have time to play so become "weekend warriors" playing only on Sunday evening

1st round of playoffs in all 3div around 20cet on next Sunday

Lol. I guarantee no one on the Edl roster works 84-94 hours a week like I do, and has a wife who also works while both of us are watching a 1 year old. I've been in NJ, the state where tourney4 is located for almost 2 years now. As tempting as dominating the USA scene with a 10 ping is, I'm too busy.

[Muerte]

Lol. I guarantee no one on the Edl roster works 84-94 hours a week like I do, and has a wife who also works while both of us are watching a 1 year old. I've been in NJ, the state where tourney4 is located for almost 2 years now. As tempting as dominating the USA scene with a 10 ping is, I'm too busy.

I think wst, IsBjorn, k1ru(shifts even on Sunday), kinex work similar numbers of hours and numavezi is absent ~2-3 weeks from home every month

kids

syanid 3
claire, k1ru, kaby 2
numavezi, Ivers 1

kinex, Reverence and hibry have needy GF 

PS I remeber Covell Estonian player played one EDL season several games babysitting holding his kid on lap struggling with opponent and kid who was trying all time to grab mouse 

[BIG DICK RICK]

lol.

[haunted]

"Even Sunday" lol. I have no days off. I'd be a tad open-minded to the possibility that I just might have a more physically demanding job then them. If there is one, then I'm just not like him. I've always really enjoyed q2 but when I come home after 12-14 hours of a mixture of operating equipment and labor(currently 4 degree wind chill), I like to help make dinner, enjoy some family time, and maybe if I'm lucky watch a favorite tv show. I like to drink a few beers nightly especially with this life style. After dinner is made and eaten It's already close to bedtime. And I have to go to bed where I have a kid that wakes me up anywhere from 0 to 8 times. It's not an excuse, I just really don't have time. I have zero life other than what's described above. Sometimes we have downtime of course but I don't say "OH BOY, now I get to play q2!!!!" Lmao. It's been a 2 year job I've been working and it's finally complete though. I could be laid off for a month or 2, MAYBE I'll play then. Not making any promises though, going to Florida.

[Sgt. Dick]

Temps in the 70's and 80's in FLA