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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2013, 11:56:15 PM »
Yes, that's what R1ch's client says, the one you are using and the one I just tried, again. After it says, "loading anticheat" it says the exact same thing as the Q2Pro client about, "not using anticheat" as you can see in the screenshot in my OP.

Only a couple possibilities occur to me at this point:

- Your antivirus software is ignoring your exception. (Others have indeed reported this in the past; I don't recall which AV software they used.)

- anticheat.dll is being blocked by a software firewall, preventing it from connecting to r1ch's AC server. (I think it uses TCP for this connection.)


Which Q2 names did you used to use?

I reviewed my AV logs and they are empty.
I don't run a SW FW
I haven't had a permanent alias in Q2 since around 2000... edit: I mean I haven't used one name in years, they have all been off the top of my head at the time. I could try to connect with a specific name if it helps.

//edit: Do you want me to PM you? I didn't think my topic had to do with your sticky but now it seems like that's how it works.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2013, 02:08:33 AM »
...tried both Q2Pro and R1GL clients...



That screenshot is from Q2PRO, which doesn't support anticheat - all of your testing needs to be done with either R1Q2 or AprQ2.

I did try both q2 starter packages on the tastyspleen site both with and without anticheat.dll before, neither worked. Both gave the same message, as I stated in the OP..

I tested a clean install of the R1Q2 version of the starter package and anticheat works fine for me on Win7 x64 with MSE installed.

I think it has been determined that my subnet was banned. No clue how or why but I haven't played on a tastyspleen server from this connection, ever.
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2013, 06:48:48 AM »

That screenshot is from Q2PRO, which doesn't support anticheat - all of your testing needs to be done with either R1Q2 or AprQ2.

Incorrect. You can use Q2PRO with anticheat but it must be one of the early versions. I think r178 is the version that Euros use to play on servers that use anticheat, but I have no clue where you will find that version online.  I think you'd be better off asking someone online for that.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2013, 12:34:52 PM »

That screenshot is from Q2PRO, which doesn't support anticheat - all of your testing needs to be done with either R1Q2 or AprQ2.

Incorrect. You can use Q2PRO with anticheat but it must be one of the early versions. I think r178 is the version that Euros use to play on servers that use anticheat, but I have no clue where you will find that version online.  I think you'd be better off asking someone online for that.

Let me clarify then:

The version of Q2PRO depicted in the screenshot doesn't support anticheat, nor does any version (that I know of) support it beyond r364, which is 4 years old now.

That's too bad. I greatly prefer the mouse GUI support, the built in server browser and the easy to settings in the Q2Pro client. It also defaults to the proper resolution OOTB, unlike R1Q2

I only even heard about Q2Pro because of http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/ It's their default client.

I just wanna play some Rocket Arena 2...It has been years since I seen a populated RA2 server. I gave up on it and migrated to Quake Live in spite of the fact their arena game sucks, there were people actually playing.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2013, 01:05:48 PM »
We have ra2 games every Tuesday and Saturday night.  Usually get quite a big crowd, especially on Saturday nights.  Nearly hit 10v10 last Saturday IIRC.  There's smaller games that usually get going other nights as well randomly.

BTW, just go with r1q2 for the time being if you want to play.  It'll be much better to be able to play, at least, rather than sitting SOL like you are now.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2013, 01:08:00 PM »
BTW, just go with r1q2 for the time being if you want to play.  It'll be much better to be able to play, at least, rather than sitting SOL like you are now.

That was the second thing I tried, neither works.
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2013, 01:13:15 PM »
BTW, just go with r1q2 for the time being if you want to play.  It'll be much better to be able to play, at least, rather than sitting SOL like you are now.

That was the second thing I tried, neither works.

Wow, really?  That's definitely strange.  Make sure you have the latest r1q2 AND the latest AC downloaded and installed.  If not, then yeah it's probably a software issue with your computer.  You and quadz (console) should get on IRC together and troubleshoot.  Probably be quicker.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2013, 01:19:51 PM »
Sometimes you just can't connect to the anti-cheat server. It might be your computer which in case you'll either need to reboot it, or it could be just that you can't get a physical connection to the server, which will only go away with time (hopefully).
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2013, 01:32:45 PM »
BTW, just go with r1q2 for the time being if you want to play.  It'll be much better to be able to play, at least, rather than sitting SOL like you are now.

That was the second thing I tried, neither works.

Wow, really?  That's definitely strange.  Make sure you have the latest r1q2 AND the latest AC downloaded and installed.  If not, then yeah it's probably a software issue with your computer.  You and quadz (console) should get on IRC together and troubleshoot.  Probably be quicker.

I tried console's own files linked in this thread, same results as before. I literally don't run any software besides the Q2 client. I have the most up to date Radeon drivers. And my AV log files are empty and the entire Q2 directory excluded.

http://faderjok.tastyspleen.net/aq2.exe
http://faderjok.tastyspleen.net/aprq2_readme.txt
http://faderjok.tastyspleen.net/anticheat.dll

I tried this and got this,



Sometimes you just can't connect to the anti-cheat server. It might be your computer which in case you'll either need to reboot it, or it could be just that you can't get a physical connection to the server, which will only go away with time (hopefully).

I have tried rebooting several times and opening port 27910 TCP/UDP in my router and nothing.
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2013, 02:05:58 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking that for the general situation. Sounds like you're banned for some reason.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2013, 03:09:13 PM »
banned for some reason.

My spidey sense is tingling. It tells me that maybe it's a good reason. But maybe not. I really have no evidence to support this "feeling". Other than the fact that he claims he played here back in 2010 and avoided giving any names by saying that he always changed his name. It's a tiny community and people around here tend to get to know people one way or another even if they do use different names all the time.

It might help to know some of the previous names he's used if he can remember one or two of them. It might also help to know if he moved and where.
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2013, 03:23:57 PM »
banned for some reason.

My spidey sense is tingling. It tells me that maybe it's a good reason. But maybe not. I really have no evidence to support this "feeling". Other than the fact that he claims he played here back in 2010 and avoided giving any names by saying that he always changed his name. It's a tiny community and people around here tend to get to know people one way or another even if they do use different names all the time.

It might help to know some of the previous names he's used if he can remember one or two of them. It might also help to know if he moved and where.

I lived in a different city, in a different home with a different ISP back then. I don't remember which name I used, nor does it matter. I was only trying to make it clear that my name/connection doesn't have any association with anything from the past. I don't even know if I connected to a tastyspleen server in 2010, that's just my last recollection of anything relating to Quake 2. The RA2 scene was pretty much dead then and so went my interest in Q2

edit: If it's of any use to anyone, I tried to connect with the alias, "fragor" a second ago for testing purposes. Still couldn't connect.

I'm getting kind of sick of these ridiculous accusatory responses. I wouldn't be here asking for help had I done anything wrong. If there's nothing that can be done, I will move on. I just wanted to play some RA2 again. It has been over a decade since I had any decent RA2 action. Thanks for your time, bye!
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2013, 03:59:39 PM »
I don't remember which name I used, nor does it matter.

Not sure quite why you'd phrase it that way. The reason it matters relates to your rather unique situation of connecting from a banned subnet. Obviously we would like to prevent the banned player from regaining access, and so information that could help establish that you are not that individual would be useful.

Note that our Q2 servers do not require anticheat by default. We try to make it as easy as possible for the majority of players to connect to our servers.

Having someone connecting from a banned subnet who can't get AC working and who used to play here but who can't provide any prior playernames is something of an extreme rarity.

Nevertheless, here we are.

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An option I've been considering would be add an exception to the subnet ban for a single playername of your choosing.

With your playername being consistent, admins and interested players would be able to spectate your gameplay, providing some level of assurance that the player who was banned for cheating has not regained access.


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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2013, 04:12:18 PM »
I don't remember which name I used, nor does it matter.
information that could help establish that you are not that individual would be useful.

I used to play on Sporbly's Nostromo RA2 servers over a decade ago and that's pretty much it. I don't remember ever playing on tastyspleen servers specifically, only that the last time I tried to play Quake 2 was sometime around 2010 (that was when I built a PC again). I don't even remember if I got any games in or not..I was only trying to state that my current connection/name has nothing to do with the past.

Recently I tried to connect with the alias, "fragor". If there is some way we can set up a situation where you monitor me in the future, I would like to use the alias, "crater". Thanks.
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