Author Topic: E3 2013 (Read 6610 times)

Golgo13 · « **on:** June 11, 2013, 04:17:07 AM »

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/

Killer instinct looks cool. the subtle nuances like audio and visuals. also awaiting the battlefield 4 trailer.

fdrjk · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2013, 04:34:18 PM »

MEGA MAN CONFIRMED FOR NEW SUPER SMASH BROS. GET HYPED

Barton · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2013, 05:46:58 PM »

No, they already showed the BF4 trailer yesterday.

Golgo13 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2013, 10:05:57 AM »

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/stage-2-day-2/

Barton · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2013, 10:17:48 AM »

http://www.xboxdone.com/

Golgo13 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2013, 11:35:06 AM »

well the xbox has that used games re-selling policy that hurts it. the ps4 may get the same thing. we have to wait and see. ps4 will also have a fee like xbox. so neither one will be as lucrative as before.

Barton · « **Reply #6 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:53:42 PM »

Quote from: Golgo13 on June 14, 2013, 11:35:06 AM

well the xbox has that used games re-selling policy that hurts it. the ps4 may get the same thing. we have to wait and see. ps4 will also have a fee like xbox. so neither one will be as lucrative as before.

Nah, we know most of the details on the DRM and used games policies for both consoles. It is possible that both companies could change their policies, but it seems unlikely especially since we are not too far away from a release for either console. So far the policies stand as:

Xbox One:
-Enforced online check-in every 24 hours to verify console/software authenticity.
-Disc-based games are only for installing games.
-Developers decide whether their games can be traded in the second-hand game market. If they can be traded, they can only be done so at selected retail stores (e.g. Gamestop).
-Games can be traded with friends but only if they have been on your friend's list for 30 days minimum. Once you trade a game, it can't be traded again and you lose that game forever.

PS4:
-Games can be played off of the disc.
-No DRM enforcement with regards to trading games. Basically you can trade and sell your games as you normally could, however developers can require for you to purchase online passes, which companies like EA already do to make sure they make money off of people who buy their games used.

The PS4 fee you are thinking about is the PS+ fee. Basically, you'll have to pay a small fee (five bucks or something) to play multiplayer games online. That is a turn off to some folks but apparently PS+ is decent as you gain access to some games for free (even AAA titles) and other content on there. Sounds like a much better deal than what you get when you pay for XBL, which might be even worst on the Xbox One since the current rumor is that you will need to have a XBL gold account to even authentic your console. If your account becomes inactive or you forget your login info, then you lose your entire game library unless you can recover your account.

Barton · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:05:51 PM »

If you are really into gaming, basically Xbox One is not the console for you, unless there is a killer title on that console that you can't live without playing.

MS doesn't really seem to care about the people who don't have access to stable internet, such as people who live in country and outside of the city limits, college students, and servicemen. Basically, they've told those folks this amazing yet controversial gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYGXld4D0ow

So far it doesn't seem bad with Xbox One, since they do not have a lot of exclusives. A lot of titles which include Dead Rising 3 and that Titanfall game will be available on the PC. The new COD game will at least be available on the PS4, so the COD bro horde is safe. You're just screwed if you like Halo, I guess.

fdrjk · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:07:20 PM »

Quote from: Burton on June 14, 2013, 12:53:42 PM

-Enforced online check-in every 24 hours to verify console/software authenticity.
-Disc-based games are only for installing games.
-Developers decide whether their games can be traded in the second-hand game market. If they can be traded, they can only be done so at selected retail stores (e.g. Gamestop).
-Games can be traded with friends but only if they have been on your friend's list for 30 days minimum. Once you trade a game, it can't be traded again and you lose that game forever.

ROFL? i bet people 20 years ago joked about shit like this happening.

Barton · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:16:33 PM »

Yes, I find it ironic that many game developers switched to make games for consoles in order to be free from piracy, aside from attracting a more larger consumer base. Now console gaming has piracy and DRM as bad as what you see on the PC, however the Xbox One might implement the worst DRM ever seen thus far!

Golgo13 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:32:11 PM »

Quote from: Burton on June 14, 2013, 12:53:42 PM

Nah, we know most of the details on the DRM and used games policies for both consoles. It is possible that both companies could change their policies, but it seems unlikely especially since we are not too far away from a release for either console.

The release Date is Dec 31st for the PS4. still a long ways off. Even though i didn't look for the Xbox release date, i can't imagine Xbox one is that far behind. companies have been doing simultaneous competitive releases for a very long time. even way back when with older companies and platforms. So to say Ps4 most likely won't change it's policy, pre-ordering is taking a gamble, even for the frugal gamer. These companies have a history of pushing back release dates and such.

Quote from: Burton on June 14, 2013, 12:53:42 PM

The PS4 fee you are thinking about is the PS+ fee. Basically, you'll have to pay a small fee (five bucks or something) to play multiplayer games online. That is a turn off to some folks but apparently PS+ is decent as you gain access to some games for free (even AAA titles) and other content on there.

well it is a Next Gen console. ppl can't get everything for free. The ps3 still has a lot of potential. especially if a creative publisher can push the limits of the platform. much like how developers pushed the limits of the first playstation to make great games. this hardware could see much more possibilities as well. regarding the 5 bucks a month, it translates into 5x12 = 60. just like microsft. except the buyer probably would get extra deals as in percentage discounts.

Golgo13 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:40:23 PM »

Quote from: Burton on June 14, 2013, 01:16:33 PM

Yes, I find it ironic that many game developers switched to make games for consoles in order to be free from piracy, aside from attracting a more larger consumer base. Now console gaming has piracy and DRM as bad as what you see on the PC, however the Xbox One might implement the worst DRM ever seen thus far!

Well if digital downloads for Game systems were to be absolute, there would be very little piracy. unless of course some skilled programmer or hacker could crack their code, hack into the game and duplicate it on the platforms. i don't know anything in that area though. there would be alot of complaints from the game community though. So i don't think they would be able to do that. you would also think if there was no cost to make artwork, manuals, CD's and boxes. the players would get a bigger discount.

Barton · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:05:09 PM »

Quote from: Golgo13 on June 14, 2013, 02:32:11 PM

The release Date is Dec 31st for the PS4. still a long ways off. Even though i didn't look for the Xbox release date, i can't imagine Xbox one is that far behind. companies have been doing simultaneous competitive releases for a very long time. even way back when with older companies and platforms. So to say Ps4 most likely won't change it's policy, pre-ordering is taking a gamble, even for the frugal gamer. These companies have a history of pushing back release dates and such.

There is no official release date for the PS4. Sites like amazon.com and such always put the furthest date possible as a placeholder for their pre-orders, such being the case for the PS4. All Sony has said is that it will be released this holiday season, and MS said November of this year for the Xbox One. I have not heard of an exact release date for either console.

I'd expect that both consoles will be released this holiday season, since clearly both companies want to take advantage of best quarter of the year for retail sales (the holiday season).

If any company is most likely to change their DRM policies, it will MS. If they follow too far behind in this "race", I'm sure they will be forced to. Right now they're already losing and their console isn't out already. The PS4 already has more pre-orders sold than the Xbox One, not that that carries much meaning.

Barton · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:10:33 PM »

http://i.imgur.com/h0zt2bP.jpg

Golgo13 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:56:00 PM »

Quote from: Burton on June 14, 2013, 05:05:09 PM

The PS4 already has more pre-orders sold than the Xbox One, not that that carries much meaning.

While it may be true it's just a general date on amazon. Sony might just pull a stunt when most people have already bought the systems that the games can't be traded or used like MS did. i'd say a year or 2 in, they might just do that. or even just a few months after release. So they will still have the advantage of sales and realize they are losing out for not doing so. it's extremely lucrative. an opportunity not to pass up. Microsoft made a costly error by announcing their policy before release. we will see.

Author Topic: E3 2013 (Read 6610 times)

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