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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #420 on: September 15, 2017, 01:55:53 AM »
Don't forget this informative story  :dohdohdoh:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4865902/Jennifer-Lawrence-says-Hurricanes-nature-s-rage-Trump.html


That slut will say less with a dick in her mouth. Or a pickaxe through her fuckin head.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #421 on: September 28, 2017, 11:18:48 AM »
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #422 on: September 28, 2017, 02:14:50 PM »
Clickturbation.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #423 on: September 28, 2017, 03:02:31 PM »
I haven't had much time to research or watch any news in general lately, but what do y'all think about the criticism on trump regarding not temporarily suspending the Jones Act?

I'm somewhat familiar with the Jones Act being that the Jones Act and Davis-Bacon are the two most important pieces of legislation that support my livelihood as a union worker in the maritime industry. Democrats typically are more supportive of these sets of laws. Republicans have repeatedly tried to reform the Jones Act(big $$ for certain big businesses, taking away from the middle class) and do away with Davis-Bacon in general(No more unions, everyone goes to Right to Work and gets paid less).

I'm not familiar with presidents temporarily suspending the Jones Act for an emergency(is this a frequent occurrence?), but I can't help but see the irony behind a leftist crowd calling for trump's impeachment over not suspending the Jones Act, lol.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #424 on: September 28, 2017, 07:07:24 PM »
I haven't had much time to research or watch any news in general lately, but what do y'all think about the criticism on trump regarding not temporarily suspending the Jones Act?

Hmm, brand new to me. (Hadn't heard of the issue before. But: I'm a software dev. on the west coast.)

This article seems to present some pros and cons:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/jones-act-waiver-puerto-rico-trump/541398/

(Seems like the author is at least trying to be neutral.)

Possibly interesting comment from a self-described resident of Puerto Rico:

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Having lived in Puerto Rico for the last two years this is what I have gathered about arguments around the Jones Act: 1) It makes things slightly more expensive (but the 11% sales tax on everything probably has a bigger impact). 2) It makes Puerto Rico an unpopular port, since a foreign ship stopping in Puerto Rico cannot subsequently stop in the mainland United States. 3) Removing it might drive an increase in Puerto Rico's shipyard capacity. 4) It's a popular whipping boy for the various financial problems in Puerto Rico. I can't see for the life of me how marginal price differences for consumer goods significantly alters the future PR though.


:exqueezeme:


P.S. Speaking only generally, I'd seen a report in the last year or so, covering trade protectionism attempts during the 20th century in some detail, and the counter-intuitive effects that seemed to result.

So, that's given me cause for skepticism on the topic in general.

However, it's not a topic I've followed closely.



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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #425 on: September 28, 2017, 07:17:25 PM »
Reportedly, an ex-member of Hamas, rebuking the Palestinian authority at the UN. [~90 sec. video]


https://twitter.com/IHWCo/status/913352963183316992

(While I could have done without the added music, it's novel to see someone from that region critical of their organization. I'd imagine the speaker must reside elsewhere now, or be in fear for his life. The reactions of some listeners are fun.)


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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #426 on: September 28, 2017, 08:28:01 PM »
AHHHHHH!!!! You're going to actually make me read an article from theatlantic.com ??!?!??!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :lolsign:

Maybe I don't get out too much in the e-media-world, but man that's the most left biased website I've ever seen! I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that the author is trying to be unbiased but wow, that'd be a first in my experience with this website. Although I could see themselves sacrificing left views for the sake of bashing Trump(see the irony I mentioned). Alright let me try to read it.

It wasn't terrible. A 10 day waiver seems fine, but I'm still wondering 1) How many times has this been done before and how effective is it? 2) Why the is the left so bent out of shape over trump not suspending an act they know nothing about that is also an act that democrats support? and 3) If it's so important what's the real reason trump hesitated? I still need to be more educated on the matter.

That comment by a "puerto rican" seems a little over the top. I'd like to know his background, profession, and situation. I know plenty of puerto ricans that are grateful for the jones act, but these said people also have to leave Puerto Rico for work.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #427 on: September 29, 2017, 12:34:37 PM »
AHHHHHH!!!! You're going to actually make me read an article from theatlantic.com ??!?!??!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :lolsign:

Maybe I don't get out too much in the e-media-world, but man that's the most left biased website I've ever seen!

Heh, ok. While I've heard of their site, I'm unfamiliar with their editorial slant. (I picked them out of the search results, 'cause their name sounded "east coast.") :P

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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #428 on: October 02, 2017, 04:29:56 AM »
What happens in Vegas... will probably be wantonly whored out by the anti-gun lobby to move us another inch closer to a total ban on firearms... but not before the left uses the opportunity to trip over themselves running to put a spotlight on what a shitty President Donald Dumbass is and what a tragedy it is for the whole world that EVERYONE ELSE was stupid enough to vote to elect him instead of the turd waffle or whatever he name was, as if he needed any help looking fucking shitty, stupid and inept.

Can't wait to see how many times he insists on tweeting retarded needless divisive statements.

Dear President Donald Dumbass,

If you should happen to fuck up and come across this post while trying to instant message Vlady Putin, allow me to impart to you this message:

On behalf of the people who did AND did not vote for you (cuz we're ALL sick of you at this point)... STOP POSTING SHIT ON TWITTER, Bitch.
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« Reply #429 on: October 02, 2017, 08:09:22 AM »
You see the video?

It's definitely a fully automatic weapon which is illegal. I hate the gun control debate. Apparently you need to think all guns should be banned, or be a hill billy shooting dual AR-15's off his front porch. We need to figure out an actual way to prevent semi-autos into autos. Other than that ACTUALLY enforce the existing laws.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #430 on: October 02, 2017, 03:56:54 PM »
Yeah, sort of briefly. Looked like nothing but terrible butt-dialed cell phone footage, none of the videos that made it to the news outlets I saw showed anything resembling muzzle flashes from the window where the guy was. He kept on shooting A LONG FUCKING TIME too, and people were just standing there looking at him. WTF!?! RUN, YOU DOPES! ::)

They DO enforce the laws. But they didn't always. Used to, you could order kits from overseas to convert your various semiauto rifles into full auto, but they've since made the practice VERY illegal. You might still be able to order the shit and have it shipped to you in the US, but no REPUTABLE retailer is going to do it, it'll have to be some shady character who would probably be just as likely to take your money without ever shipping the merch. And if you DO find someone who is honest enough to not rip you off, then you gotta worry about customs catching it on the way to you.

Anyway,... you wanna know what upsets me the MOST about this whole thing?

This guy has several full automatic rifles and countless preloaded magazines.
He kills almost 60 people.
He wounds a staggering 500+ people!
BUT...

Jason fuckin' Aldean doesn't get a god damn SCRATCH on himself!!! THAT MOTHERFUCKER COULDN'T HAVE AT LEAST TRIED THROWING A COUPLE ROUNDS HIS WAY?!?!  GOD DAMMIT!!!! :frustration:
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« Reply #431 on: October 02, 2017, 04:39:26 PM »
You can register for a fully automatic possession license by filling out a form and getting a background check and paying a license fee $200 as I understand it. The license must be renewed annually. It involves physical inspection of your secure storage location by ATF and periodic surprise inspections. You cannot resell.

I've shot a full-auto, suppressed AR-15 and you can expend a 30 round magazine doing short bursts in about 9 seconds. It's also hard to hold down and on target. I got a face full of blowby from the excess chamber pressures due to the suppressor.

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« Reply #432 on: October 02, 2017, 04:53:25 PM »
Again, I say...

2000+ hot rounds of supersonic lead are fired at Jason Aldean... he scampers away unscathed.

A little piece of fat blob... and a truly talented REAL musician like Tom Petty fuckin' dies.

The world is not a fair place. :ohlord:

(Dunno, they still haven't CONFIRMED Tom Petty is dead yet.)
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« Reply #433 on: October 02, 2017, 06:46:27 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-clinton-blasts-nra-fellow-dems-renew-call-for-gun-control-after-attack.amp.html

I saw her tweet then searched for an article. Boy has she watched a few too many Bond movies lmao. Like the article states, a suppressor only does so much. And I'm actually really unfamiliar with how well they work on an ar15. M16's had flash suppressors. Plus a suppressor for an AR would likely not hold up too well at auto.

Also, to my knowledge fully auto is straight illegal POST-1986. You can't modify shit to be auto and it be legal. The permit you speak of is for pre-1986 weapons so you can own your old as dirt thompson machine gun(exaggeration, I know).

I just wish there could be something done at the manufacturer to hinder turning this shit to auto. I'm sure there is.

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« Reply #434 on: October 02, 2017, 06:52:56 PM »
In all seriousness, RIP Tom Petty. Great musician.
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