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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #255 on: October 25, 2016, 11:37:20 AM »
Yeah, I'm still not voting.





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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #256 on: October 25, 2016, 12:10:18 PM »
If it sucks that bad, you could skip the top part of the ticket and spend your time on local proposals and downballot reps.
In my case, I get to downvote an attempt to gerrymander the shit out of my local city council districts, and for some in my state it's a real chance to show some congressional obstructionists the door (if you arent into that sort of thing).

The real value of this election may have nothing to do with the President spot and everything to do with control of congress for the near future.

For the record, I really wish the dems had put forward ANYONE else.

If they had put a whitish man with reasonable policies and an anglo sounding name out there, this election wouldn't even be close. Instead the party establishment seems caught up on this "lets make history with a person of X minority who has never been president before!" instead of something more effective like "hey lets put forward the best candidate with the best ability to reign in the leftist fringe and keep our party slightly left of moderate".

The Democrats didn't learn a fucking thing with the whole "omg Obama sounds like a brown person name!" and "his middle name is Hussein!!" stuff for 8 YEARS, and you would have to be clueless not to take that part of the political spectrum into account. Even Trump's people figured out they could wield the closet racists and the xenophobes like a weapon, and they're some of the least competent people I've seen run a campaign in my lifetime.

Putting out someone who doesn't sound like a scary minority person and who has moderate values and proposals would have been enough to get a lot of republicans to switch in the face of something like their Trump debacle.
Instead the dems got to choose between one of the most hated women in politics (for whatever reasons) and a carpetbagging socialist who would give the store away to dumb entitled millennials, neither one of which is capable of appealing to a moderate conservative voter.

If there was any real shit sandwich and giant douche situation it was in the Democrat's own primaries.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #257 on: October 25, 2016, 12:26:27 PM »
Clinton has already won. Sorry to spoil it for anyone. 8 more years of our pseudo-progressive era. The fault is on the gop. Almost every other candidate would have one except trump. Rubio or rand would've won big.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #258 on: October 25, 2016, 02:10:47 PM »
Rubio has little feet
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #259 on: October 25, 2016, 02:30:07 PM »
Clinton has already won. Sorry to spoil it for anyone. 8 more years ...

I dunno. 4 years for sure. If the Republicans put forth anyone besides Trump or Palin in Nov 2020, and Hillary Cuntlips runs again, they'll have a landslide victory.
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« Reply #261 on: October 29, 2016, 01:54:23 PM »
More of the Grandmaster,out of the confines of Comedy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMI6ZmMCwWg

I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders...now I'm not going to bother. Not even for local stuff or Congress. No point. Whoever gets in has no reason to honor whatever pledges they made,and my flimsey contribution to the process will be forgotten,subverted or capitalized into meaninglessness the moment its cast.

Hillary is so crooked she should be declared an honourary Republican. And Trump is a walking meme. Two sad punchlines to this joke of an election.

How did we come to this?
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #262 on: October 31, 2016, 10:08:46 AM »
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« Reply #263 on: October 31, 2016, 02:27:04 PM »
More of the Grandmaster,out of the confines of Comedy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMI6ZmMCwWg

I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders...now I'm not going to bother. Not even for local stuff or Congress. No point. Whoever gets in has no reason to honor whatever pledges they made,and my flimsey contribution to the process will be forgotten,subverted or capitalized into meaninglessness the moment its cast.

Hillary is so crooked she should be declared an honourary Republican. And Trump is a walking meme. Two sad punchlines to this joke of an election.

How did we come to this?

This is how you subvert a representative republic. Destroy confidence that voter choice matters so they simply don't vote rather than believe their choice will be unrecognized. Once you have a significant population of non-voters, it's easier to control the ones that remain. This is how the GOP subverted the process that gave us Trump as the "Leader" and how the Sanders campaign was subverted by the DNC and the convention delegate process. Both parties have deliberately structured their processes to favor the incumbents or to favor the choice of the machine vs the choice of the electorate.

Rather than sit home in disgust, I'll be voting for a third-party candidate and I would urge anyone else who's disgusted by the manipulations by both major parties that together those votes against the major parties will send the message that the voters see the corruption of the system by the parties and by the elites in Washington and perhaps give hope to a stronger third party.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #264 on: October 31, 2016, 10:58:13 PM »
The Wild Party. :headbang:
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #265 on: November 03, 2016, 08:43:38 AM »
Trey Gowdy for President!  :fight: :frustration: :beer:
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« Reply #266 on: November 03, 2016, 11:22:59 AM »
More of the Grandmaster,out of the confines of Comedy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMI6ZmMCwWg

I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders...now I'm not going to bother. Not even for local stuff or Congress. No point. Whoever gets in has no reason to honor whatever pledges they made,and my flimsey contribution to the process will be forgotten,subverted or capitalized into meaninglessness the moment its cast.

Hillary is so crooked she should be declared an honourary Republican. And Trump is a walking meme. Two sad punchlines to this joke of an election.

How did we come to this?

This is how you subvert a representative republic. Destroy confidence that voter choice matters so they simply don't vote rather than believe their choice will be unrecognized. Once you have a significant population of non-voters, it's easier to control the ones that remain. This is how the GOP subverted the process that gave us Trump as the "Leader" and how the Sanders campaign was subverted by the DNC and the convention delegate process. Both parties have deliberately structured their processes to favor the incumbents or to favor the choice of the machine vs the choice of the electorate.

Rather than sit home in disgust, I'll be voting for a third-party candidate and I would urge anyone else who's disgusted by the manipulations by both major parties that together those votes against the major parties will send the message that the voters see the corruption of the system by the parties and by the elites in Washington and perhaps give hope to a stronger third party.

the system is rigged either way you look at it. you vote third- party, they have no chance at winning. trump gets in, the government will collapse itself. hillary gets in, you may get another few months of do-nothing politics until the system eventually implodes or right wingers start rounding up congress people.

in other words, we're all fucked, just depends on what kind of bed you want to make for yourself.


me? i choose a king size matress and having as much fun as i possibly can before the shit crumbles. dueces for now.


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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #267 on: November 03, 2016, 07:32:44 PM »
me? i choose a king size matress and having as much fun as i possibly can before the shit crumbles. dueces for now.[/glow]

You can now do all of those things that you always wanted to do but never acted on  :sex_sodomit: :sex_algida: :smiley_abqr:
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« Reply #268 on: November 08, 2016, 03:07:32 PM »
It's ON

Even if your choice loses, be thankful that the endless ads will be over  :bananaw00t:
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« Reply #269 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:12 PM »
yes the ads will go away, but the "news" commentators will still be blowing hot air for weeks at this rate.

I sat thru an hour of it at lunch watching them speculate based on early voting totals and quibble over statistically insignificant shifts in how many white people showed up, because they're assuming that all the white people will vote republican or some such thing.

This is the sort of magical thinking we can expect from the party that demonizes science and facts based in the real world.

They just assume that brown people only vote brown and white people only vote white, and all the while seem to be forgetting that if this is the trend it probably means women people vote for women.

Combine that with the reality that Obama pulled lots of white vote as well, and you get something approaching the real picture. White people do vote democrat. Women may indeed vote for women after being a historically downtrodden 'minority' in politics.


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