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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #930 on: February 18, 2020, 01:16:50 AM »
Had the weirdest fucking dream last night. I guess it was from all the Trump talk here.

I was like a hired helper in the White House. For some reason I'm in a suit but I'm not wearing socks or shoes even though everyone else is. Trumps daughter comes in right as I'm talking about how strange her name sounds. "I-van-ka! Sounds angry...", and then I look up and she's right in front of me looking through a drawer on the other side of the table I'm sitting at. So I try to explain so she won't think I'm a TOTAL asshole. "We were talking about names we think sound strange. I thought Ivanka sounded like... harsh and sharp." She just kinda shrugged and kept looking for whatever it was elsewhere in the room. Then at some point she was talking to the asian girl that also worked there. She then walked out of the room and the asian girl sat down at a desk in a very small room and started writing something. She was somehow figuring out the answers to a crossword puzzle. Ivanka Trump came back, she handed her the paper, and for some reason they apparently had some kinda strange deal worked out to where she'd give her the crossword puzzle answers in exchange for her being willing to fucking BRAND marks onto her arm with a really long bent straight pin (the kind with a point on one end and a ball on the other, like they use to pin clothes up) and a cigarette lighter. Some kinda strange Chinese mafia shit or something, I dunno. Ivanka sits down, yanks her shirt off over her head, and she's sitting there with her tits out. I'm thinking, "WHOA!... THAT JUST HAPPENED!", LOL. I'm trying NOT to stare at her tits and be polite. (for some reason, wtf, look at the tits, dude) Then shes trying to hold the pin still while she heats it and cuts the lines into her arm just below the elbow, so she asks me to help her and hold the pin rigid to the table while she heats it. She then starts asking me about, "You don't think I look ugly or weird do you?" I'm like, "Nah, you look perfectly fine." She says, "You sure, some people think the line under my eye is..." she's pulling the baggy area under her eye down and yeah theres a bit of a wrinkle there... and then I realize... SHE'S GOT NO FUCKING EYEBALL. Her eye is missing and her eyesocket is grown over with skin. I'm like, "DAMN! YOU GOT NO EYEBALL!" She's like, "Does that make me look strange?" I'm like, "Nah.... I didn't even notice it, honey."

Then I woke up. LOL. Brains are fuckin' weird.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #931 on: February 18, 2020, 01:25:04 AM »
Was looking at pictures of Ivanka Trump to post in my last post and came across this article:

https://www.vogue.com/article/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ivanka-trump-qualifications-sarah-huckabee-sanders

"Being someone's kid doesn't qualify them for a job." Well that's kinda what Trump was saying to the President of Ukraine on the phone, and it got him nearly impeached. So can we start to somehow impeach this queefie cunt too?
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #932 on: February 18, 2020, 04:58:45 AM »
The democrat party being hijacked isn't up for dispute and there's two sides you can take. 1. I'm ok with it because I hate trump so bad, or 2. This is unacceptable, the democrat party needs to go back to the drawing board because we're not the party of AOC and the young Turks.

Ok, so I think this is the question you are addressing to me (since I'm the only one attempting to disrupt the echo chamber you guys have going on here - my apologies, btw).

The Democratic party certainly seems less united currently than the Republican party. That said, the Republican party has largely been hijacked by Trump to the same, or perhaps an even greater extent than what you imply is happening to the Democratic party. I think AOC herself said that in any other country, she and, I believe it was Biden, wouldn't be considered members of the same party (because their ideologies are so different), but that's what you get with the two-party system here in the U.S. (which I personally think is hugely problematic and holds a significant portion of the responsibility for the deep divisions we have in this country today - humans' inherent tribalistic leanings and all that). I think this is one of those false dichotomy situations though, where you're told you've got X number of options, and there are no other options available - not true. I guess I'd have to go with your #1 though... I don't 'hate' Trump so much as I'm convinced he's simply toxic and corrosive to our systems of government, our legitimacy and image in the world, and our legitimacy as being lead by competent, honorable people. Btw, I'm much more of a fan of AOC than TYT - I think Cenk is fairly dumb and a douchebag.

Thanks for the response, I actually expanded a bit on it with this:



Punk, I appreciate the discussion but you're sort of cherry-picking what to respond to. Are you content with the democrat party being hijacked by  communist/socialist radicals as long as it achieves the greater good of getting trump out of office? If the answer is yes, what if this strategy had no chance of beating trump in 2020? Would you then still be supportive of this happening to the democrat party? It would be crazy if you're answer is still yes.

If it doesn't achieve the goal of getting trump out of office, aren't efforts better focused on the left getting their shit straight? I'm not pro-trump. But I do notice the media bias against him, and I am very critical of the left because they are the ones that need to BECOME the more viable option. They're losing, yet all they do is become bigger losers.   :raincloud:
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #933 on: February 18, 2020, 10:31:42 AM »
All of us are of the opinion that Donald Trump is a shithead and shouldn't be the President. So perhaps we are an echo chamber. Rather than having our own real opinions, let's all diversify our opinions and be diverse because diversity is ALWAYS wonderful even if it isn't genuine or real.

Or would that make us ridiculous? Yes, it probably would. And the concept of "unnatural forced diversity" is one of the several new-age ultra-PC Democrat philosophies that I think makes the left not worthy of being my default vote anymore.

I hope this makes sense, because I really don't know of any better way to sum it all up than that.

I've said it somewhere else before I'm sure, but from my perspective, the left has taken the concept of political correctness so fucking far that they've seemingly made the political spectrum into a giant mobius strip whereby their far-left ideas have gone so far left that they've wrapped back around to the right side to mirror the cliched right wing ultra-conservatism from the days of Tipper Gore/Moral Majority/700 Club vs Judas Priest/Frank Zappa/heavy metal.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #934 on: February 18, 2020, 10:52:24 AM »
I'd like to explore some ideas about marginal tax rates, liberty, and the illusion of "our legitimacy as being lead by competent, honorable people".

But I'm on a deadline so I'll just do another drive-by memeing for now.  ;)




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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #935 on: February 18, 2020, 11:38:40 AM »
I'd like to explore some ideas about marginal tax rates, liberty, and the illusion of "our legitimacy as being lead by competent, honorable people".

But I'm on a deadline so I'll just do another drive-by memeing for now.  ;)

Damn drive-by memers and their drive-by memes...  :shifteyes:  :razzberry:
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #936 on: February 18, 2020, 01:48:20 PM »
Mom called me flipping out about some new Bloomberg commercial where he claimed to have been "there and guiding New York City through the tragedy of 9/11" or some shit, was hard to hear over the phone. It was kinda funny because she wasn't aware that, yes, he kinda WAS there. He was elected in 2001 shortly after 9/11. In fact, he had been a democrat, but switched to republican before the election. In the wake of 9/11, hero NY mayor Guiliani gave him his endorsement, and THAT'S precisely why he got elected. At that point, you'll remember, everyone absolutely loooooooved Giuliani for all his inspirational speeches after 9/11.

So I tell her, no, you shouldn't be pissed that he claims to have been "there in the trenches during 9/11", because he kinda was. He was right there standing behind his buddy Giuliani when he was giving all those speeches.

What should piss people off is that he mentions that time as a way to garner sympathy and favor, but conveniently omits the part where he was a republican at the time, and how he was so close with Giuliani who is now a political leper for his associations with Trump.

I think I've said it before, but I'm saying it again: I'm calling it now. It's gonna come down to Bloomberg vs Trump, NY millionaire vs NY millionaire. And honestly at this point... I could be satisfied with that. I'd take Bloomberg as a Democrat over the rest of the wackos. And if that seriously came to be... I could once again consider voting Democrat.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #937 on: February 18, 2020, 03:25:50 PM »
Picking between Bloomberg and trump is an interesting thought. I guess I could be satisfied too? I think indifferent better describes my feelings though. I guess we'll see what happens in the next few months. Typically in a situation like that and an incumbent is producing results from time to time it's tough not to go with them, but 2020 is hardly typical. I could still see myself leaning towards trump anyway,  but when you factor in Bloomberg being in the biggest gun grabber I'd go trump for sure.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #938 on: February 18, 2020, 05:06:13 PM »
It's still "giant douche & turd sandwich" situation like last time. I don't like Bloomberg. Plenty of my smoker friends from New York hate him because cigarettes became more expensive than cocaine and he made it a damn near shoot-on-sight offense to smoke in most places in NYC. Righties will hate him for his gay marriage shit he got passed in NY, which I don't give a damn about personally, non-issue. I'm certainly mistrustful of him due to the fact that he blatantly switched parties just to get elected... but so did Trump, kinda. So once again it's gonna be a mindset of "which one do I mistrust the least." But so far he hasn't been going out in debates and rallies and talking about crazy shit like the other ones. Now that it's getting closer to decision time, he's gonna have to start talking and explaining things. So fingers crossed, he can still be that one guy to navigate through that without joining in on the bandwagon with the others, who I would swear are getting all their talking points and promises from marketing researchers who are extrapolating data from focus groups of millennial fuckwits on twitter.

NOT ALL OF US ARE ON TWITTER, YOU ASSHOLES. Just the dumbest ones. Donald Trump.... Need I say more?
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #939 on: February 19, 2020, 08:25:48 PM »
I watched the debate mainly because Bloomberg would be on it. My take is that Peter Buttiguy is the smartest guy and the best orator. Researching his views he's certainly not a moderate like he's portrayed; he just looks like one next to Bernie. Which is why we often talk about how far left the party has shifted. It's not just some exceptionally radical folks; their whole center and how it's defined has shifted. But, it's a shame that the world isn't ready for a gay president in my opinion. I think focalor had a point the other day. I would love for Tulsi gabbard to go tell all those backwards camel jockies what's up as a woman whom they consider beneath them. But unfortunately, I don't think it's feasible yet for a gay person to have the same diplomatic success.

The talk about internet attacks in the beginning would never end. Worthless discussion. It made me want to turn it off.

IMO, marginally below Pete it was Biden, then maybe kobluchar who looked the best... If I were scoring on 20 different things including how annoying they are. I can't stand Pocahontas lol, and crazy Bernie was consistent. Mini mike was in the hot seat but came out mostly unscathed. He did ok considering.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #940 on: February 20, 2020, 10:09:41 AM »
I didn't watch. I was busy watching... uh... what was I watching?

Oh yeah, I watched this weekends UFC, which I'll be sure to bitch about in the other thread when I'm done here.

But from what many media outlets are saying, it seems like all the candidates are trying to gang up and attack Bloomberg. And isn't it obvious WHY? He's got more money, and he's the more likely candidate. It's a classic WWF Royal Rumble. If everyone doesn't team up to pitch Andre the Giant over the ropes, he's surely gonna win because no single person can lift his big ass to toss him and beat him.

But in other news... Trump pardoning Blagoshithead just put himself on my fucking shit list. If he wants me to vote Democrat in November, that's an excellent fucking way to push me to it. :ohlord:
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #941 on: February 20, 2020, 11:15:17 AM »
Trump pardoning Blagoshithead just put himself on my fucking shit list.

Interesting to guess at Trump's motives. I presume it is setting the stage for Trump to modify Roger Stone's sentence.

(Should be noted that Blagojevich was not pardoned - he's still guilty. Trump commuted his sentence from 14 years to 8 years.)


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« Reply #942 on: February 20, 2020, 11:22:10 AM »
(Context: Video is from someone who was a Bernie supporter in 2016)


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« Reply #943 on: February 20, 2020, 02:08:53 PM »
Yeah these pardons/commutings seem pretty messed up. This doesn't change that, but the amount of pardons/commutes does add a bit of context:

Carter: 566
Reagan: 406
HW bush: 77
Bill Clinton: 459
George W: 200
Obama: 1,927
Trump: 35

I really can't compare the nature of previous pardons, and I'm sure the bulk of them are less scandalous than the ones being hyped to us now. But, I'm also equally sure that there's some screwed up ones that didn't get the coverage that these are getting now.
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« Reply #944 on: February 20, 2020, 05:49:36 PM »
I would not put it past Trump to use the pardons/commutes to troll the media & opponents.

Trump is not happy unless there is a shit-storm going on.
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