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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #1110 on: March 16, 2020, 06:01:06 AM »
His VP pick is pretty crucial. He's looks and acts old as dirt and slips up even when he knows all the questions that'll be asked and has all the talking points written in front of him.

This is off of memory, but I recall the question would you be in favor of a national lockdown?

Biden's answer:

 "This is what I'd do, I'd do what we'd always do. I'd sit us down in the situation room, and we'd get all the experts to give us the best information possible. Then with that we'd make the best possible decision with that. But I'd lay everything out in the situation room, it's what we always do, and unlike our idiot president I'd listen to the experts advice in the situation room. Because that's what we did, we would come together and lay everything out"

'And my whole plan on Coronavirus is at joebiden.om, go there to read it because I can't remember it'

Lol.

Tulsi Gabbard would have roasted those 2 last night. Shame they wouldn't let her.
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« Reply #1111 on: March 16, 2020, 07:32:37 AM »
https://freebeacon.com/politics/biden-promises-no-more-drilling-under-his-presidency/

I didn't read the article, I just googled so I could find a video clip.

How likely is Biden to follow through with the campaign promise of "no more drilling"? Haha
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« Reply #1112 on: March 16, 2020, 09:54:31 AM »
Positive rights are incoherent, as they necessitate compelling others' labor, and such imagined “rights” evaporate as soon as that labor can’t (won’t) be provided.

If I recall correctly, both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders asserted healthcare was a "human right" in last night's debate.



An entitlement whose availability is contingent on resource scarcity CANNOT be a right.

And categorizing it as such dilutes/confuses the concept of natural rights.

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« Reply #1113 on: March 16, 2020, 10:15:51 AM »
There's too many of us. People weren't meant to live right on top of each other... and they literally do no thanks to high rise shithole apartments like the ones in China and Italy.

Take it from a dumbass redneck. :shifteyes: When there are too damn many whitetail deer in an area, they become sickly and feeble. It's the natural darwinian order. They die off, and the ones that are left... are still pretty fucking sick and shitty. So you gotta shoot a certain number of them every year to keep the numbers at a certain level where they'll remain healthy.

Yes, I'm suggesting we should shoot the elderly. 8)
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« Reply #1115 on: March 16, 2020, 08:04:41 PM »
His VP pick is pretty crucial.

Yes, I can't see Joe being sharp enough to be president 4 years from now.  I question his mental capacity right now.
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« Reply #1116 on: March 18, 2020, 03:31:18 AM »
Someone I grew up with tried to post this on Facebook and they flagged it:
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« Reply #1117 on: March 18, 2020, 03:58:09 AM »
He was almost our Gov.  He lost a very close race with our current Gov. Desantis
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« Reply #1118 on: March 18, 2020, 05:30:43 AM »
Possible scenario: Biden - Gabbard ticket defeats Trump - Pence
Biden dies after contracting pneumonia after inauguration speech.
Tulsi Gabbard becomes first woman president.
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« Reply #1119 on: March 18, 2020, 07:51:43 AM »
Someone I grew up with tried to post this on Facebook and they flagged it:
There's a bug right now on Facebook where things are getting auto flagged when they shouldn't.


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« Reply #1120 on: March 23, 2020, 05:30:06 PM »


I acknowledge this is a silly finger pointing situation and blame Congress as a whole for what's happening currently, however it does seem that the Democrats want to sneak in more funding on abortion, regulation on emissions, etc. I've seen two claims by the Democrats blaming Republicans, and Crenshaw seems to refute one of them here:



Have y'all seen anything more concrete supporting the Democrats in this partisan shit show?




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« Reply #1121 on: March 23, 2020, 05:54:38 PM »
I can't tell who's to blame. My impression is Democrats are putting the interests of individual people first where Republicans are putting businesses/corporations first. I imagine that neither is 100% accurate and I'd like to believe they simply have a difference of opinion about what's most appropriate.

I read that Democrats want any company/corporation that receives bailout money to commit to no longer engaging in stock buybacks, not just for the duration of the loan like Rep. Crenshaw is reporting, but permanently, so they'll be less likely to need another bailout if/when we have another situation like this. I've read that the airline industry has for many years now (not sure how long) spent, perhaps on average, 96% of all their profits on stock buybacks - buying their own stock to artificially(?) increase its value as opposed to having any cash in reserve for situations like this (to somewhat self-insure). As it stands, they can spend recklessly knowing that they're an industry the government will always bail out since they're deemed critical (for good reason). Dems seem to want to ensure they take responsibility with their earnings going forward, not just temporarily. Airline industries have been reporting record profits for a while now (again, what I've read - I'm not extremely versed in all this stuff).

Why should they, private entities, be able to skirt responsibility with the knowledge that the government will always have their back when the shit hits the fan? Think of all the other industries that can't do that and what a huge disadvantage that is.
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« Reply #1122 on: March 23, 2020, 06:30:06 PM »
Top comment on Facebook right now for one of Bernie Sander's posts relating to the stimulus/bailout bill:

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It shows how out of touch republicans are with average Americans and how little they think of us. They think if they toss us a grand we’ll look the other way while they hand giant wads of cash to rich donors. Thank you and the other Democratic senators who are standing in their way of profiting off of the crisis.
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« Reply #1123 on: March 23, 2020, 11:09:59 PM »
A few interesting replies in this thread:


https://twitter.com/DrKarlynB/status/1242154704815239176  (Thread)


https://twitter.com/tamarammarie/status/1242156171458490369


Top comment on Facebook right now for one of Bernie Sander's posts relating to the stimulus/bailout bill:

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It shows how out of touch republicans are with average Americans and how little they think of us. They think if they toss us a grand we’ll look the other way while they hand giant wads of cash to rich donors. Thank you and the other Democratic senators who are standing in their way of profiting off of the crisis.

I'm seeing these sorts of posts from the "democratic socialist" Bernie supporter types:



The general impression I get from things socialists say (whether they prefix it with "democratic" or not) is there's a big pile of money out there, that just needs to be redistributed.

"They're deadass going to risk letting people get back to work to save the economy."

Yes, and? How much do these folks think the money they've redistributed is going to be worth, if we let the economy collapse?

There's a reason we're facing the unsavory prospect of having to phase-switch between social distancing and allowing people to get back to work, and I suppose the reason socialists don't understand it will be the same reason they habitually wreck economies with runaway inflation.

There are no good options until we can mass produce a vaccine. There are only bad and worse. And allowing widespread economic collapse is catastrophically worse than allowing the non-elderly cohort of the population to carefully risk working again as soon as we can manage it.
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« Reply #1124 on: March 24, 2020, 12:41:36 AM »
P.S. - to clarify:

The general impression I get from things socialists say (whether they prefix it with "democratic" or not) is there's a big pile of money out there, that just needs to be redistributed.

I think there's widespread agreement a ton of people are going to need financial relief in this time of crisis.

What I'm objecting to is the apparent ass-backward regard for a market economy showing through in statements from Bernie and some of his supporters.

"They shouldn't be helping businesses, they should be helping THE PEOPLE."

One starts to wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes, seeing posts that equate to something like: "Those damned money-grubbing businesses. What we need is to just keep sending money to THE PEOPLE until we're out of this mess."

It's maddening. A recipe for catastrophe from folks with no apparent working model of how money sustains its purchasing power.

Anyway.

Interesting, if true, the remarks here about how the measure had bipartisan support until 'leadership' stepped in to throw a wrench in the works:


https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1242141596541427713

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