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« Reply #1080 on: March 08, 2020, 09:34:22 PM »
Deceptively cut off before he finishes his thought/sentence

Indeed. I'd seen the full clip earlier. The reason I posted the one with the comment, "Haha, what even is this timeline?" is because of the meta-absurdity of the whole thing.

The unedited clip was already bad enough. The "Trump edit" adds a (false-but-humorous) extra level of tomfoolery - but doesn't change what's nakedly apparent in the original.

People on the left have been highlighting Biden's evident cognitive decline for awhile now:

Biden’s Brain Is Swiss Cheese And It’s Creepy That We’re Not Talking About It

The only thing that's interesting in a new sense is the frantic attempt to pretend this wasn't previously an issue, in the scramble to reboot history since Super Tuesday.



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This is an explanation of how this sub, along with FB, twitter, reddit and America as a whole is being manipulated. This is not some condemnation by me on my ivory tower. I am as vigilant and skeptical as I can be, and I will gladly admit I am 100% being manipulated as well.

Russia has never stopped their election interference in favor of Trump.

This is the dumbest narrative. Sure, big bad Russia is strengthened if the U.S. is divided. Their best bet is probably seeing a vehemently anti-American faction gain prominence (aka. the woke left) rather than nationalist-idealist types, "America - Fuck yeah!" Trump supporters. (You don't have to "like" Trump supporters; just be real about who has a coherent vision of pro-American ascendancy and dominance.)

But the primary reason it's a dumb narrative is the amount of fake news Russian influence is able to inject into the process is a damned drop in the bathtub, proportional to the division already being sown by our own narrative-driven news media.

Ironically, the "muh Russia!!" narrative, is a narrative designed to be divisive.

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« Reply #1081 on: March 08, 2020, 09:58:38 PM »
Great post...

Not so much.

"Bloomberg literally bought 15% of Americans support with memes and ads."

Did he? Is it really THAT easy to write him off? If you're going to read all that and "acknowledge [and] factor that into the information you see and what you believe and say to yourself", or in other words, just be more aware of the shit going on, then why is it so easy to reduce Michael Bloombergs candidacy to "just a bunch of memes and ads, pfft, fuck him."? I fucking HATED his ads. I hated seeing them. In fact I hate seeing ANY political ad on TV, as they're all so posed and fake and full of bullshit. Ads in general are trying to manipulate people, and I fucking hate ALL of them for that, even the ones about Snuggle dryer sheets with the cute little bear. Fuck that fucking bear. But what I didn't hate was the things he said during the debates. If I was counted among that 15%, it was because of his on-the-spot words during the debates, not his focus grouped and 10th draft final scripted TV commercial phrases.
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« Reply #1082 on: March 09, 2020, 12:18:28 AM »
The unedited clip was already bad enough. The "Trump edit" adds a (false-but-humorous) extra level of tomfoolery - but doesn't change what's nakedly apparent in the original.

Or to put it another way:


https://twitter.com/PaxHart/status/1236860234418868224



Ironically, the "muh Russia!!" narrative, is a narrative designed to be divisive.

On a related note:


https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1236548356240846849

Yeah, so THE RUSSIANS were helping Jill Stein. And Tulsi is in league with THE RUSSIANS. Oh and they also want TRUMP to win.

Apparently THE RUSSIANS are in favor of anyone the DNC doesn't like.

Funny how that seems to work. ::)

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« Reply #1083 on: March 09, 2020, 05:36:57 AM »
Deceptively cut off before he finishes his thought/sentence

I'm amazed that this would be anyone's choice to highlight anything deceptive, but this is me making a case for it. You could say that Joe Biden is so Gaffe-prone, having dementia-like moments so frequently, that some people could be tricked into thinking that "re-electing trump" was part of the gaffe. That's understandable, but it reinforces what Jill Stein's tweet stated and it doesn't change the humorous intention of those who retweeted.
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« Reply #1085 on: March 09, 2020, 12:55:03 PM »
Ridiculous but unsurprising at this point.

Indeed. They've been talking about fact-checking memes and satire sites.

Snopes got in on it as well, fact-checking The Babylon Bee.

Because otherwise who could tell?




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« Reply #1086 on: March 09, 2020, 01:04:30 PM »
It IS absolutely necessary for someone to be looking out for the publics best interests and put a stop to such satire. For the same reason that they put warning labels on jugs of Clorox that say "DO NOT DRINK." :-[
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« Reply #1087 on: March 09, 2020, 03:35:36 PM »
Did y'all know that if covid-19 is anything like other coronaviruses that it'll live on a surface for 9 days?? I found this out only 2 days ago. No wonder it's so contagious.

PSA: Greffex Inc. already feels like they found a vaccine. And several of these companies are paying good money for Guinea pigs too. $7,000 I just saw.  Not bad for something that we'll seemingly inevitably contract.
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« Reply #1088 on: March 09, 2020, 03:43:08 PM »
Speaking if the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-epstein-assassination-was-to-manage-anxiety?fbclid=IwAR0cvbUsu0fvX1HXGBCnDmlqFXRNRvJxlSuBVtRNAkyvriUygHgMiBeo-XI

For those of you who don't know there's a new documentary on hulu about the Clinton's and Bill confesses that the blowjobs he received from Monica were to "manage anxiety".

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« Reply #1089 on: March 09, 2020, 07:58:50 PM »
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« Reply #1090 on: March 10, 2020, 09:45:18 AM »
Him talking about the guy getting suspending for inaccurate reporting about Kobe Bryants daughters...

I wonder how well this plays with his bosses concerning his own career. :lolsign:

I watch ABC World News most nights right after the local news goes off. EVERY DAMN NIGHT when they start the show and give the rundown of the top stories headlines,... if you came here from another planet and that was the first thing you saw about us as a species, you'd think, "HOLY SHIT, THE WHOLE WORLD IS FALLING THE FUCK APART!.... EVERY NIGHT!!!" News reporters now are different from even the Peter Jennings generation. All of them use tone and inflection to inject drama in their stories. News has become increasingly "showbiz" if you know what I mean. Reporters are more like fucking performance artists.

Just tell me what the fuck is going on with accurate information and stop trying to make me "feel" a certain way about it. I can decide what way I wanna FEEL about something on my own.
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« Reply #1091 on: March 10, 2020, 10:52:10 AM »
All of them use tone and inflection to inject drama in their stories. News has become increasingly "showbiz" if you know what I mean. Reporters are more like fucking performance artists.

Interesting how David Wright and Andy Fies have no trouble identifying and articulating the problems with their own profession today, but seem otherwise resigned/fatalistic about it.

I suppose it's like being a game developer for a behemoth like Activision, when the higher-ups insist on implementing predatory "loot box" monetization schemes in new games. ("Well this sucks, but I guess I'd better keep coding.")

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« Reply #1092 on: March 10, 2020, 11:16:18 AM »
I flip through them all daily. ABC certainly isn't the worst, as far as narrative driven media and biased bullshit is concerned. Yes, it's all changed dramatically. This is what I've observed over these years... fox used to stand out the most both due to their heavy right bias and from them being the sole big right wing media outlet. The other networks were left leaning but no network was even close to how extreme they are currently, but they were slowly drifting more left. Then msnbc saw fox's success and decided to copy their business model, only in the radical left direction opposed to the reactionary right. Then CNN started spewing bullshit as well. Now in my opinion,  it's 1. MSNBC then 2. CNN, if I were to rank them.

Next are fox and abc. I don't watch any show or network "regularly", but the shows i occasionally watch the most are probably 60 minutes and the five on fox. I might catch a full episode of the 5 once a week. Greg gutfield is a libertarian version of john Stewart somewhat except funnier, and Dana petrino is probably the smartest female anchor on TV. Sure they have biased idiots and right wing pundits but they also have Juan Williams who is as flaming liberal as they get to show the other side of things. I've always said he's got the toughest job out of anyone on that network, it's him against everyone every day.
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« Reply #1093 on: March 10, 2020, 06:56:56 PM »
I watch ABC World News most nights right after the local news goes off. EVERY DAMN NIGHT when they start the show and give the rundown of the top stories headlines,... if you came here from another planet and that was the first thing you saw about us as a species, you'd think, "HOLY SHIT, THE WHOLE WORLD IS FALLING THE FUCK APART!.... EVERY NIGHT!!!" News reporters now are different from even the Peter Jennings generation. All of them use tone and inflection to inject drama in their stories. News has become increasingly "showbiz" if you know what I mean. Reporters are more like fucking performance artists.

Just tell me what the fuck is going on with accurate information and stop trying to make me "feel" a certain way about it. I can decide what way I wanna FEEL about something on my own.

Every Night - "We have breaking news as we come on the air tonight"
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« Reply #1094 on: March 11, 2020, 06:34:03 PM »
Something my old man showed me. I dunno whether to laugh at it for being fake news or shake my head at it for maybe being somewhat true. Mostly I laugh though.


Liberal Madness Declares Words Like “Y’all” As ‘Hate Speech”, You Should Be Arrested For Using Them:
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