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Should magic be banned

ban: i've played him recently and am convinced or strongly suspect he is walling
3 (10%)
ban: i have not played him, but based on demos i am convinced or strongly suspect he is walling
2 (6.7%)
ban: his troll posts and taunt binds alone warrant a ban, even if he is not cheating
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he should at least be muted
5 (16.7%)
no change in his status is currently warranted
13 (43.3%)
i have no opinion either way about his status
4 (13.3%)

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Re: Magic re ban?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 02:24:05 AM »
 :arrow: hes posting all his demos post march
 :arrow: quadz said he sees nothin out of the ordinary with regard to hacks
 :arrow: all of his posts that you guys are upset about are within his own thread

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magic plays diff mods with everyone including ra2 nights and is funny / social. if you ban magic itll get dull up in here 
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 :arrow: magic should stay
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*a full outright ban of everything (game play, forum, irc) should only happen if the community vote = 2/3 (66%) like amending the constitution   :2guns:
51% - 49% doesn't seem fair for banning purposes  :!:
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Re: Magic re ban?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 02:43:22 AM »
All his troll like antics aside, I personally think he is still walling and thumbing it in our noses, but that is just my opinion.

Your "evidence" aside, you think EVERYONE cheats when very very few of them actually do.

When someone is cheating, it's usually gonna be very obvious that they are. People just need to get the fuck over whatever it is they're stuck on and move on. If you got a personal problem with this dickhead, then quit giving him the constant attention he wants. If he IS cheating, that approach will only goad him into being more reckless in an attempt to step it up and regain the spotlight, and eventually he'll get caught redhanded doing something. Now that's probably not gonna happen, so just pour some fuck-it in your morning coffee, chug it down, and move on with your life.

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 03:02:03 AM »
Note: I've edited Alpha's poll options because I'd like to gather a bit more fine-grained data. This necessitated resetting the few votes so far to zero, so, sorry about that -- please vote again if your vote got cleared.

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Re: Magic re ban?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 03:10:37 AM »
I have played magic 1 on 1 on the railz server. From going on the railz server quite often, I can tell you that he is only doing what is possible with a lot of practice and concentration. There were no indications whatsoever that he was walling :/
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 03:20:40 AM »
When i played him i didn't think he was hacking. But then he magically wasn't being hit by my railz. Now this sounds strange but i think he has developed some sort of future prediction dodging hack. Like i rail him but he doesn't get hit. Its like he has a bot that dodges time. Id call it a time warp traveler hack, with some sort of future code prediction. just my 2 cents but whateves
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 03:28:50 AM »
When i played him i didn't think he was hacking. But then he magically wasn't being hit by my railz. Now this sounds strange but i think he has developed some sort of future prediction dodging hack. Like i rail him but he doesn't get hit. Its like he has a bot that dodges time.

Its like he has a bot that dodges time

a bot that dodges time.

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 05:05:54 AM »
So.. let me get this straight.. you guys are implying that he is using some sort of hack that travels forward in time to know when he will need to dodge? Shit, whoever made that hack deserves a nobel fucking prize :D
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 08:36:04 AM »
Walling to me always seemed pointless on a full railz server, because it really wouldn't help that much when people were consistently hitting 600-800 fph...obviously it makes a big difference when it's just a few people, or a duel situation...

But it seems to me if you are under this much scrutiny(posting demos, getting speced, etc.), it would be a real pain to wall while having to make sure you don't show any signs...unless his motivation is to simply stick it to tasty/quadz by figuring out a way to bypass the system...which is obviously not out of the realm of possibilities...

When I played him a few games a couple of months ago, there were 3 of us, and the scores were all within a few frags...I didn't get the impression that he was cheating...

However, I think it's undeniable that his presence on railz directly affects that servers traffic...
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 08:37:43 AM »
Magic has given me no reason to suspect him of cheating after he was allowed back on the servers, and I've yet to see any evidence that convincingly shows otherwise.

I don't support a mute on Magic because I'm not aware of anything he's done to warrant one.

Magic has recently helped to identify an actual cheat that was being used on the railz server that could be observed and verified. So other than participating in the usual banter that goes on in the forums and IRC, I'm not quite sure what he's suppose to be guilty of at this point in time.

Why don't you tell everyone how you chat with him all buddy buddy in irc daily?

You're supposedly friends with that Shogun retard too, and he got popped with a wallhack as well.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 08:47:09 AM »
isn't AC cheat free? why are we even discussing that :bubbles:

Shut the fuck up you goddam retard. That has been explained to you in detail, multiple times.

Pull your googley eyed head out of your gaping ass, and fucking figure it out.


While I'm at it: If ANY OF YOU are going to come on here and spray us with "Oh he shows no signs of walling" you should pony up what you think those "signs of walling" would be. So far I've seen not one single person other than quadz who actually said WHY they dont see walling.

At this point I see a lot of people who know exactly dick about what walling looks like saying this exact same thing and it would be beneficial to the community to not see 20 meaningless repetitions of that sentiment.

Let us all know just how little you know about what you're supposedly looking for so we can pigeonhole your opinion when we realize it's based on nothing of substance.
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Re: Magic re ban?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 09:03:03 AM »

But it seems to me if you are under this much scrutiny(posting demos, getting speced, etc.), it would be a real pain to wall while having to make sure you don't show any signs...unless his motivation is to simply stick it to tasty/quadz by figuring out a way to bypass the system...which is obviously not out of the realm of possibilities...

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However, I think it's undeniable that his presence on railz directly affects that servers traffic...

He did show a many months long pattern of "stick it to tasty/quadz" back before he realized he could just be slightly less annoying till he got unbanned. There are apparently some who think his "change" in behavior to affect an unban was some sort of permanent change in his persona and they're really missing something.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 11:21:56 AM »
Why are ones so quick to call hack. Where is the wahhhhhmmmmmbulance? :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

I played this magic dude on railz server n keep in mind i just visit the server ocaisionally. i dont practice on it all day everyday. the only map i know is q2dm1 the edge.

The guy is a pretty awesome railer but hes no hacker. i timewarped plenty. of his railz and could only blame my loss on my lack of skill/practice/patience for TD railz server and all the maps i dunnolike the back of my hand.



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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2013, 11:41:50 AM »
i dont think he cheats but i think its fucking retarded to let someone who cheated the fuck out of this game back in after he begged to be let back in for like 10 months just so he could talk shit so i voted to ban the faggot (bundle of sticks)
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2013, 12:36:16 PM »
Why are ones so quick to call hack. Where is the wahhhhhmmmmmbulance? :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

I played this magic dude on railz server n keep in mind i just visit the server ocaisionally. i dont practice on it all day everyday. the only map i know is q2dm1 the edge.

The guy is a pretty awesome railer but hes no hacker. i timewarped plenty. of his railz and could only blame my loss on my lack of skill/practice/patience for TD railz server and all the maps i dunnolike the back of my hand.

perhaps it has to do with the fact that he was banned here for cheating with a wallhack previously?

PS: he's not an awesome railer by any stretch of the imagination. Actual awesome railers confirm this assertion.

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