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what are your favorite maps?

Funkadoodle alpine
1 (3.4%)
teshs revenge
0 (0%)
soach complex
0 (0%)
arenaholics anonymous
0 (0%)
an assortment of flavors
0 (0%)
fragapalooza
1 (3.4%)
palace of brak
0 (0%)
injury terminal
0 (0%)
Gizbang
3 (10.3%)
rocket  o'rena 2
1 (3.4%)
cybernetic genocide
0 (0%)
hal 9000's pimprena
2 (6.9%)
Proving grounds
0 (0%)
rocket o'rena 1
0 (0%)
karnix's rage
0 (0%)
Contest arena
0 (0%)
the asylum
3 (10.3%)
malicious carnage
0 (0%)
futtervilles Joint
0 (0%)
night reverse edge
3 (10.3%)
unknown generic quake map??
0 (0%)
alphas ecletic collection
0 (0%)
virtuosity
0 (0%)
big ones dm sampler
3 (10.3%)
arenaline rush
0 (0%)
Facks arena
3 (10.3%)
Ra2 allstars (edge)
4 (13.8%)
Ra2 allstars (space map)
0 (0%)
dakyne (ctf Map)
5 (17.2%)

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all map options are numbers from top to bottom in numerical order, Ra2map 01- 29. check the link for pictures of the corresponding maps and then vote.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 09:22:32 PM »
6 maps is too small, i think top 12 would be better. let people pick 12
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Re: which maps should be in the offical rotation. most rated gets picked
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
there's no way for me to change the max votes other than creating a new poll. 6 votes should be enough anyways. otherwise there will be too many players using their votes for the same map, (if that's possible) or not using all their votes. you could always add more maps based on the least popular votes. maps with 0 votes won't be considered. that's one way to fix it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 02:24:26 AM »
This is the most useless poll ever created.  The fuck is so hard about voting maps like it's been done since ra2 beta(15 years)?  The only server in which the rotation was messed with, was [1/2]'s Edge Only Ra2 5on5.  The only thing I think that needs to be tuned a little is the vote thresh hold.  That would solve the issue of where 1-2 people who don't vote(or don't know how to or they don't pay attention to any text/dialogue in q2 at all, they just play), 1 person votes no and 5 people vote yes and the vote still fails. 

Also, I propose that quadz add the "vote kick" option back to the ra2 server for me to abuse again.  I promise to only abuse it against golgump or random.(esp random  :smiley_ablg:  :heart:)
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 03:35:21 AM »
The only thing I think that needs to be tuned a little is the vote thresh hold.  That would solve the issue of where 1-2 people who don't vote(or don't know how to or they don't pay attention to any text/dialogue in q2 at all, they just play), 1 person votes no and 5 people vote yes and the vote still fails. 

Also, I propose that quadz add the "vote kick" option back to the ra2 server for me to abuse again.  I promise to only abuse it against golgump or random.(esp random  :smiley_ablg:  :heart:)

i don't think quadz would take on the task of altering the arena code for one fix. it would take him lot of work and may not even be possible. i'd prefer if there was an impartial admin that would act as a 3rd party that could be trusted with running the Ra2 server instead.. this would eliminate the need for biased vote kicks, ripe for abuse by the likes of you. it would also tidy up the voting process, so it would be a more efficient playthrough. as discussed previously.

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=21143.msg202221#msg202221

my first choice, i'd nominate elysium.  2nd choice limited admin without vote kick should go to "random" if he is away. then as a 3rd option god2dum or myself. of course that is entirely up to the admin discretion. Just a suggestion.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 07:51:05 AM »
no way im voting for you or 2dum to be admin of ra2.

it should either go to elysium or haunted. or even better, me.

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 08:39:17 AM »
I'm still confused as to why there needs to be an admin on ra2 at any given point.  The server has done fine for years without one being constantly present.  Fix the vote thresh hold for map votes please quadz. 

And +1 to fader.  Neither you or 2dum should ever be considered for even limited admin access.  If you're gunna go that route, you might as well just give me full admin and I'll police the shit out of the server, and I promise to be very fair(ban gump every chance I get).

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 10:41:25 AM »
I'm still confused as to why there needs to be an admin on ra2 at any given point...
Agreed.

If the vote threshold change can be done with a simple server setting, that would help. If it requires more than 10 minutes of quad's valuable time then people can just deal with it...

Again, the ra2 server does not need any kind of regular admin. If you need someone to just do the basic server admin stuff, then Elysium or Haunted would be the obvious choices.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 11:13:18 AM »
Is there another issue aside from the majority winning votes that needs to be addressed by an admin?

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The label of 'admin of the ra2 server' only has an allure to golgo, it would serve no purpose other than in-title... or, for me it would equate to addressing complaints in IRC every two weeks or so like for the tdm servers.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2013, 11:23:51 AM »

If the vote threshold change can be done with a simple server setting, that would help. If it requires more than 10 minutes of quad's valuable time then people can just deal with it...


+1.  Shoulda added that 10 minute line to my last post before this...(I think it's a simple fix if I remember correctly from when I used to run ra2 servers).  If it doesn't take up too much of your time quadz, can you please lower the vote thresh hold on the ra2 server? 
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2013, 12:38:22 PM »
Is there another issue aside from the majority winning votes that needs to be addressed by an admin?

 :alien:

The label of 'admin of the ra2 server' only has an allure to golgo, it would serve no purpose other than in-title... or, for me it would equate to addressing complaints in IRC every two weeks or so like for the tdm servers.

-turn hyperblaster on.
-majority win votes > 50%
-change rounds to best of 21 rather than best of 9
-help slugski figure out why 10 mins into the game server thinks hes a bot
-unban von slander for ra2 only
-remove ra2map15 from playing list. it hangs the server because of unfound files
(Ely said cl_http_download 0 would fix this on user end, but its a class A bug!)
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-keep a noose on rick and hops neck for chat spam/vent
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2013, 01:19:37 PM »
Is there another issue aside from the majority winning votes that needs to be addressed by an admin?

 :alien:

The label of 'admin of the ra2 server' only has an allure to golgo, it would serve no purpose other than in-title... or, for me it would equate to addressing complaints in IRC every two weeks or so like for the tdm servers.

not so sure what to think of that comment. It would make me stand out a bit more than i already do of course. i also named a few people i thought could be trusted with admin. not just myself. specifically implying limited admin for minor changes to the server for 2dum and myself. This would only be if the top 2 choices weren't present.

Of course if  i were to have admin, i would half mute any chat spam or (Full mute) with warnings. i would balance teams if they got out of whack. any setting changes i made, would be minor or non-existent since it doesn't impact gameplay very much in any given situation. i wouldn't have the authority to kick players (like haunted does) Of course this is purely hypothetical.

This of course depends on whether on or not quadz decides to do some work on the Ra2 server and change some command settings. it would need quite a few changes, mainly like a community event mode that saves a preferred configuration voted on by the players.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2013, 01:28:04 PM »
So ra2 voting is actually handled by q2admin, and it does support a configurable threshold.

Turns out the ra2 vote threshold had been raised to 76% back when we were trying to limit vote kick abuse. (Vote kick has since been disabled.)

I've lowered the threshold to 50% (the presence of WallFly on the server shouldn't affect this, as q2admin is only counting yes- vs. no-votes, ignoring non-voters.)

Lemme know how it goes, or if it needs further tweaking...


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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2013, 01:49:02 PM »
So ra2 voting is actually handled by q2admin, and it does support a configurable threshold.

Turns out the ra2 vote threshold had been raised to 76% back when we were trying to limit vote kick abuse. (Vote kick has since been disabled.)

I've lowered the threshold to 50% (the presence of WallFly on the server shouldn't affect this, as q2admin is only counting yes- vs. no-votes, ignoring non-voters.)

Lemme know how it goes, or if it needs further tweaking...


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Nice. However, what is that status with other variables such as enabling hyperblaster by default, competition mode, match rounds and preferred map rotation? i know most servers have a simple text file, that can save and change maps in order of selection. Check the poll when 8 - 12 players vote.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2013, 02:10:46 PM »
oh and ban 2dum from all ts servers for being a complete douche who talks shit to everyone.

 

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