Disappearing player models

[AngryCamper]

Recently I've noticed that some models are disappearing before they exit around a corner and not appearing right away as they emerge from a corner.  I've seen this kind of thing in the past and I get that it's to combat wallhacking, but I don't think it should affect game play how it is.  I get that it will affect higher pings sometimes but I have 50-60 ping and still have player models popping up out of nowhere and disappearing before they run off so you don't know if they went right/left or went spectator.  I made a clip of one where I would certainly have had enough time to twitch to rail the grunt but his model appeared out of thin air.  Not only that but pauses for a second in mid air possibly due to "lag" which happens frequently and people seem to evade leading rails with the jitter in their connection which seems to happen most often with bad wifi.   I'm not sure what can be done to fix the disappearing players and satisfy everybody's need for combating hacks and stuff.  Let's discuss it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdsTmQg0vFU

[yahoo]

That makes me Angry.

Seriously, have you tried using another skin pak?

[fdrjk]

Looks like a simple latency issue. No real way to fix it.

[|iR|Focalor]

Looks like a simple latency issue. No real way to fix it.

What he said. Here lately... like in the past several months, I've noticed that at certain times of the day, I get pretty horrible connections to the servers. On average, it starts at about 4pm and doesn't go back to normal until sometime after midnight, sometimes as late as 3am. Even MORE recently, I've been experiencing this same shitty connection problem at ALL TIMES OF THE DAY! I was playing on DM just a few minutes ago, and at first everything was smooth, netgraph was a-okay. Then after maybe 10 minutes or so, the netgraph started going all over the place. Having a higher than normal ping wouldn't really be problem if it were a steady ping. Problem is I usually ping about 30-32ms, and when my connection is fucked, it bouncing up and down from as low as 30ms and as high as 100+ms, always changing, making it impossible to land precision shots with any consistency.

So maybe you're having the same problem I am. Dunno what can be done, but I wonder if there's anything Quadz can do to investigate where the problem is and what I/we could do to fix it, if anything.

[Sgt. Dick]

I remember that glitch that made a player invisible, that was screwed up unless it was you. 

[Jay Dolan]

That looks to me like some very unluckily timed packet loss, nothing more. There's not much you can do about that, either. Maybe try playing at 2am instead? 

[AngryCamper]

That looks to me like some very unluckily timed packet loss, nothing more. There's not much you can do about that, either. Maybe try playing at 2am instead? 

For it to be unlucky, it would be unfrequent.  It's pretty much doing this all the time, especially in the evenings even though my ping doesn't change.  It's more than just packet loss, it's some server setting (I don't know what it's called) that's supposed to lessen the impact of wallhacking by being more strict as to when to send the player model, but it seems with anybody with more than 10 ping it seems it makes players disappear at the wrong time.   It doesn't do that in real vanilla quake2.  It's so bad tonight coupled with people constantly freezing and moving very fast that it made it pretty much impossible to rail and there's a couple people on there with 10 ping who jump out from behind corners and you actually see their rail trail before you see their player model, then you see their player model appear with zero speed then skip off like a jackrabbit across the map behind another corner or stop just before you lead your rail so you can't get an accurate shot off.  I really really wish this would get better, I wouldn't care so much but this is the only vanilla DM server in North America left populated with players around the clock and it's been a couple weeks like this and so far no comment of any mods or admins about it.

[quadz]

It's so bad tonight coupled with people constantly freezing and moving very fast that it made it pretty much impossible to rail and there's a couple people on there with 10 ping who jump out from behind corners and you actually see their rail trail before you see their player model, then you see their player model appear with zero speed then skip off like a jackrabbit across the map behind another corner

How does your netgraph look?

There have been some reports of network issues lately (contributing to laggy gameplay for some players) depending on routing.

Myself, I play the vanilla and dm servers daily (I'm about 1000 miles away from the server) and am not experiencing anything like you're describing.

[Sgt. Dick]

Myself, I play the vanilla and dm servers daily

Your that guy who always grabs the quad 

[ImperiusDamian]

Myself, I play the vanilla and dm servers daily

Your that guy who always grabs the quad 

That's when you rail him and call him a quad pussy.