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[fdrjk]

bonz is a good player

LOL

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[haunted]

tier-wise, considering duel/tdm/EVERYTHING imo it's like
1. naymlis
1. ah!
1. adrenal1ne
5. haunted sober
5. kickr0, but went inactive 2-3 weeks ago
7. ryd3l...inactive+fag
7. slugs CURRENTLY
9. vae
9. flarez not giving a damn
13. senz
13. fader
13. kyuss
13. xanax
20. hunter
20. .Skillz
20. Chiefin
20. beez
20. johnson
20. barton
20. flesh
20. adam
99. bonzai

just sectioned out generally...


i'm sure I missed a few.. some wouldn't count due to inactivity, we'd want a changing top 10ish. Tournament performance will have a lot to do with it...

[naymlis]

I would make a list to help out but I'm not active in TDM enough to know. Most your lists look fine except for everyone putting me on number one. thanks but no.

It's not that I don't like teams, it's really that I don't like pubs with "random" teams because I usually get the newb/shittiest players vs a stacked team and that's just not fun so I don't play it often enough. Back when there were enough active tdm clans/teams I loved it. Especially when I was able to team with competent/good players like kickro, dahang, shells, etc.. vs other competent/good players. But that's long gone and it's not the same and probably will never be unless I move to europe.

Sorry for the rant I guess and can someone unban me from #nadl. that ah!...

also about the euro league. The main reason I decided not to play in either of them is because of my new job. I don't have the time to practice with our team and I just didn't feel like going through the scheduling bullshit in the duel league either. And high ping is frustrating as hell for me

[haunted]

I already unbanned you. Check your pm's... My list is very general due to the sectioning, but is there anything you think is obvious to change?

[VaeVictis]

haunted, im glad you admitted i have some skill i wont even complain about the people above me that i think are less than they should be currently (like slugs -.-)

also, might i suggest just doing two different brackets? one for teams and one for duel?

generally the good players will do well in both, but there are people who excel in teams, and people who excel in duel, like flarez doing his flarez thing does much better in teams than duel cause there is a larger margin for screwing around, or fader being a retard (like always ) does better in duel than in teams because he can pressure more

EDIT: also lawl at the 99 on bonz XD didnt notice that at first...

[adz1La]

very interested in the vae list.

[Sgt. Dick]

i wont even complain about the people above me that i think are less than they should be currently (like slugs -.-)

very interested in the vae list.

Me 2

[fdrjk]

It's not that I don't like teams, it's really that I don't like pubs with "random" teams because I usually get the newb/shittiest players vs a stacked team and that's just not fun so I don't play it often enough. Back when there were enough active tdm clans/teams I loved it. Especially when I was able to team with competent/good players like kickro, dahang, shells, etc.. vs other competent/good players. But that's long gone and it's not the same and probably will never be unless I move to europe.

+1, same thing with 1v1 too.

[Sgt. Dick]

in terms of active players and consistancy i would go....

naymlis
adren
kickr0
ah! (4th seeing he is a one map player)
haunted
kyuss
senz (have seen senz beat ah! but i think he is a one map wonder too)
vae
bonz
barton
fader

but in all honesty its pretty close between all players apart from mainly naymlis because i have seen each of these players beat the other on the list.

I would move Fader down a couple slots 

[playboy]

That ah! i tell ya...

on a real note i was pretty hammered the other night when this ban took place, you got banned from a channel youre hardly ever in...relax.

and no im not butt hurt, a dbag calling me a dbag..ouch? no

yes people came to me telling me you said blah blah about me, so i mocked it a little bit and made a joke of it...sorry if youre the one whos butt hurt over it

youre unbanned, it wont happen again, and for the banning part I do apologize.

[haunted]

yeah naym, don't blow drunken shenanigans out of proportion, no one hates you....

as for ah!, someone has taken a few too many nice pills lately. I hope you make this up with some killer vibes later

 

[DEMOn]

tier-wise, considering duel/tdm/EVERYTHING imo it's like
1. naymlis
1. ah!
1. adrenal1ne
5. haunted sober
5. kickr0, but went inactive 2-3 weeks ago
7. ryd3l...inactive+fag
7. slugs CURRENTLY
9. vae
9. flarez not giving a damn
13. senz
13. fader
13. kyuss
13. xanax
20. hunter
20. .Skillz
20. Chiefin
20. beez
20. johnson
20. barton
20. flesh
20. adam
99. bonzai

In order of documented skill:
Naymlis
Playboy
Adrenaline
Millan
Kickro
Slugs
Haunted
Vaevictus
Faderjok

Skillz, Rydel, Senz, Kyuss, Johnson, Flesh, and Adam don't have any/many games posted so they are not represented well.   I think Kyuss, Rydel, and Johnson are better than at least Faderjok, but don't have any 'proof' of that.
Adrenaline could be the best NA player currently(as most others are not currently practiced/active; but that hasn't been proven).  Adrenaline is shake-able in a game; once losing he is prone to be inconsistent.
Flarez rarely plays a serious game.  The last one was probably in 2007.  Whether winning or losing, he often gets distracted by... anything.
Tier-wise, Haunted, Vaevictus, and Faderjok are not in the same 'group' as the others on the list.
TDM skill measurement is difficult.  Rarely does one player win the game for a team single-handedly, but there are a lot of factors to consider when evaluating good TDM play/players.  Communication, power-up control, teamplay with map control, weapon respawn control, weapon/ammo dropping, zone playing, playing with your team in mind or playing with control of the opposing team in mind, knowing when to be aggressive or defensive, etc...
And Bonzai is a good player; in my experience better than Barton.  Why does every player with low self-esteem, or whose bark is stronger than their bite, have to poke at players beneath them?  It seems that the only thing that Quake2 players are really good at is immaturity.  (as I'm sure every response to this post will prove)

Naymlis:
aerowalk_naymlis12_adrenaline4_1.zip
aerowalk_naymlis6_adrenaline1_incomplete_1.zip
q2dm1_naymlis10_flarez8_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis12_adrenaline-1_1.zip
q2dm1_naymlis15_flarez3_3.zip
q2dm1_naymlis15_kickr06_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis23_flarez10_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis24_damiah3_lpb_4.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_dahang3_both_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_flarez5_3.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_purri5_lpb_3.zip
q2dm3_naymlis28_adrenaline1_2.zip
q2dm3_naymlis28_adrenaline1_4.zip
q2pduel4_naymlis10_kickro4_2.zip
ztn2dm3_faderjok0_naymlis59_0.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis11_vaevictus1_in-eyes_both_1.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis15_kickro3_2.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis43_adrenaline-1_2.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis8_slugs0_incomplete_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez3_naymlis15_3.zip

Playboy:
q2dm1_2x2_ah-kickro17_dinsum-ridix11_playboy10_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_damiah15_2.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_mirr16_2.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_mirr1_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy5_damiah3_lpb_chase_plusother_1.zip
q2dm1_playboy5_mirr-2_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy7_damiah1_lpb_in-eyes_3.zip
q2dm1_slugs4_playboy13_0.zip
q2rdm2_playboy31_kyuss-1_in-eyes_1.zip
q2rdm2_slugs1_playboy2_1.zip

Adrenaline:
aerowalk_adrenaline18_bonzai3_2.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline24_slugs0_incomplete_4.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline24_vaevictus-1_plusothers_4.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline32_hunter2_3.zip
ptrip_adrenaline15_rydel3_2.zip
ptrip_adrenaline19_slugs3_2.zip
ptrip_adrenaline27_barton0_3.zip
q2dm1_adrenaline7_haunted0_3.zip
q2dm1_adrenaline7_slugs2_incomplete_1.zip
q2dm7_adrenaline22_haunted-3_3.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline18_faderjok0_3.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline27_slugs-1_incomplete_4.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline4_kyuss-1_incomplete_1.zip
q2rdm7_adrenaline14_kyuss0_incomplete_2.zip
q2rdm7_adrenaline37_bonzai4_3.zip
ztn2dm3_adrenaline18_bonzai0_3.zip
ztn2dm3_adrenaline2_slugs0_2.zip

Millan:
q2dm1_adrenaline9_millan11_1.zip
q2dm1_flarez12_naymlis2_4.zip
q2dm1_flarez3_naymlis15_3.zip
q2dm1_flarez5_naymlis6_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez6_naymlis10_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez6_naymlis5_3.zip
q2dm1_flarez9_naymlis3_0.zip
q2dm1_adzilla4_flarez5_2.zip
q2dm1_flarez4_purri11_lpb_4.zip

Kickro:
q2dm1_kickro32_naymlis-1_2.zip
q2dm1_kickro31_naymlis0_4.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted2_kickro3_3.zip
q2dm1_damiah3_kickro1_1.zip
q2dm1_kickro6_damiah4_lpb_2.zip
q2pduel4_kickro15_naymlis5_1.zip

Slugs:
q2dm1_slugs10_naymlis5_1.zip
q2dm1_slugs4_naymlis-1_incomplete_0.zip
q2rdm2_slugs17_playboy3_2.zip
q2rdm2_vaevictus6_slugs15_0.zip

Haunted:
q2dm1_haunted8_adrenaline2_incomplete_3.zip
ptrip_haunted12_kyuss3_1.zip
q2dm1_haunted10_flarez9_2.zip
q2dm1_haunted12_xanax0_1.zip
q2dm1_haunted5_senz1_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted7_vaevictus1_hpb_2.zip
q2dm1_haunted8_xpoze5_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted9_slugs8_2.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted7_hunter2_1.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted7_vaevictus2_1.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted8_senz0_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted10_skillz4_1.zip

Vaevictus:
ztn2dm3_vaevictus11_kickro4_1.zip
q2rdm2_vaevictus19_slugs6_1.zip
ztn2dm3_vaevictus12_kyuss0_incomplete_1.zip
ztn2dm3_vaevictus20_bonzai1_2.zip

Faderjok:
q2rdm7_faderjok37_bonzai4_1.zip
ztn2dm3_faderjok11_vaevictus8_1__ztn2dm3_faderjok1_vaevictus14_0.zip

Skillz:
q2dm1_skillz16_senz4_1.zip

[fdrjk]

Demon, you know I play as "Near", right?

And Bonzai is a good player; in my experience better than Barton.  Why does every player with low self-esteem, or whose bark is stronger than their bite, have to poke at players beneath them?

Because bonzai's a complete spammy idiot who does nothing but run?  but, if he didn't run against Barton, I'd say it'd be an easy win for bart.

[fdrjk]

No, you don't understand, bonz doesn't run because that's his style, he does it to troll and piss people off. He's been muted 2 months ago, and he's been bypassing it ever since.

Also,



 

[DEMOn]

Demon, you know I play as "Near", right?
Because bonzai's a complete spammy idiot who does nothing but run?  but, if he didn't run against Barton, I'd say it'd be an easy win for bart.

of course, you've never hidden that fact that you are Near.

I agree that Barton might be better than Bonzai now, but I have played both many times and only lost to Bonzai.