The hardest jumps in dm1

[[TC]Granny]

the stairs by water to mega light to mega MIGHT be possible, im been railed onto the light which means it would take crazy speed(prolly coming form upper rl) to pull this off.

i will deffinitly make a demo of clearing mega, just might be a wihle as i dont enjoy making jump demos heh.

well what i said about ramp to gl to mega entrance i was saying is ez not hard, me and flarez do it all the time in games.( 1 jump from ramp to gl then jump to mega entrance)

my fav way and most consistant way of doing the arena jump is the way u described being hard, staying on the ele platform and 1 jmup to gl to mega entrance.

doing the mega jump from small box str8 to mega i believe to be possible as i also have come insanely close, however u would have to purposely be going for mega instead of light which would just bring your chances way down in a game.

what else.. um well the only jump i can say ive never seen in any of the jump demos is the 1 i made up. jumping at lowest box below yellow armour up to yellow armour, not hard at all but has been useful to me for sure. let me knwo if uve seen it in a demo b4.

[daelmun]

well, then we pretty much are on terms, then I'll stick with my first notion that the jump I posted indeed is harder than shells-hyper-mega. Because, if you couldn't tell I do not jump on the hyperlift to get across, the hyperlift is down. Pure luck I made it, but it's useless in any game. But still like it a lot.

I also do the gl to mega jump, it's not hard I just perform the jump exactly the same way every time I do it (I've seen Flarez do it, and he starts the jump from a different spot than mine). Only thing is that the gl to mega jump is really easy to predict if playing someone who is used to you doing it (me and the swede gren plays a lot, and we both do it so it's pointless as we always spam a rocket there hitting the guy jumping). The sounds from the jump is also easy to predict ((jump)+jump+gl-pickup-pause) Only time I use it in games except warmup is pretty much escaping a chainer, but can quite consistantly do it several times in a row.

Well, staying inside the ele-platform when its moving up and jumping directly to gl-mega whitout stepping back is really hard, dunno how you can do consistant but if you can, then good job

[[TC]Granny]

as soon as i see a jump i know if its possible or not. this comes from playing jump mod for a while. after u master the mod, u can see where any jmup would be possible on edge and which are fake.

such as doublejumping to ledge above rockets near water.. this is not possible, the demo that ive seen of it was mr.slick and i knew him back in the day and he changed gravity for it.

i still disagree about the hardest jump. i dunno if its eaiser for u for some reason but ssg shells to hyper to mega requires the best circle strafe jump in the game so i dont know how a jmup could be harder than that.

i see your jump to hyper to mega several times b4 and done it. never bothered going for consistancy but found it not nearly as hard to make it. although din found it harder on my pc to do his jump aswell. so that could play into it.

i dont change fps for edge. the only jump i cant do without changing it is the crack to rockets at water. which is simple with 27,29 or 31.. which im sure u already know but most ppl i wouldnt expect to understand the fps jumps

[haunted]

i think it's the 2nd or 3rd hardest jump... (shells, hyper ledge, across the arena)

[daelmun]

hehe, hmmm, the doublejump from shards to smalledge IS actually very much possible, believe it or not. I've done it myself without any altered settings, think I used cl_maxfps 81 because someone (bookshe1f maybe, I forgot) told me it was the best for that jump but I dunno if it helped much. Seen others do it too, also seen fakes of the jump as well but it is still very much doable, yet really hard/luck.

And yes, hyper to shells to mega requires a pretty much perfect circle, but its setup is pretty simple and there aren't any obstacles that prevent you from doing the jump. I still find the speed dj to light from the top of lowest box near YA a lot harder

Anyway differnt folks different strokes, but to me a hard jump is the one that is hardest for me to do. Shells to hyper to mega is not, yet I don't deny it being hard indeed. And yes, I don't doubt my jump from hyper across is fairly doable with practice since I haven't bothered trying it again, but I've never seen anyone do it or you do it, and I'm pretty confident it's not easier than the 2nd simplest jump from gl to mega (which a LOT of players can nail more or less consistently, whether they bother is another question since gl to mega is a very overrated jump imo when it comes to usefullness). I'm sure jump-freaks like you or Flarez or haunted who enjoys showing off at times would do it all the time if it wasn't hard. I asked you to record it two-three times in a row to just show it that it's so simple, because that's a pretty good proof it indeed is as easy as gl-mega in 2 (or one jump as you call it) jumps. Since DinSum can do the hardest jump 5x in a row, it shouldn't be much of a problem. At least when saying it's even easier than a jump I and many others can do quite consistently I would like to see it, and maybe I should work on it some more to use it myself because it could be handy when someone chase you down from lift to mega for a last escape.

And yes, jumps are harder on some comps and impossible on others but not that hard at all on a third. Maybe that's something you got to think about too before bashing anyone playing this game for not being able to nail this and that jump? Still remember Din doublejumped from ammopack to the grenade on YA-box instead of the armor itself, because he couldn't do that jump as easily on his own comp. Besides, not many sets their fps to maximize their jumping abilities, players in general would rather have a smooth q2 for aim than good fps for jumps.

And luckily q2dm1 hasn't many fps jumps or at least jumps that are impossible without certain fps (fps jumps are to me pretty much crap, and a good reason not to bother too much with jumpmod imo, makes the whole mod seem a bit distanced from dm which isn't good. Also, why are they using faster rl-reload time in the wireplay jumpmod? Always bothered me, and it's pointless), but the doublejump (backwards or not) from ammopack crate to the light by mega seems to be close to impossible for me with certain fps at least high ones, but luckily with 90 it's easy. And I couldn't nearly do it at all on my oldest comp.

[[TC]Granny]

im a lil confused of which jump u want me to do 2-3 times in a row now, clarify for me plz.

btw i was talking about  from shards not from mega, mr slick did it from shards and i knew it was fake.

its quite useless from mega :/

[daelmun]

Hmm, you confused? I'm scratching my head a bit here too

It's pretty much the same jump we've been talking about since you started to post here, the jump you said was ez, even easier than jump from gl to mega in one jump. Which to me seems like a pretty random thing to say unless you got something to back it up with, because in theory it's not easier and don't even see how it can be easier. But you said it was, so I just want to see it. (here, i added it to this post).

And no, the jump can't be done without speed, one of few if not only speed-dj where you use the speed to get the height on q2dm1. Sorry, thought you meant from shards to ledge in general.

[[TC]Granny]

you seem to be even more confused than me   

[adrenal1ne]

not sure if youve done this yet but its possible to do a speed dj coming from mega hit stairs by ssg and make it to ssg..did it by accident playing groo a few years back..was quite amazed

[daelmun]

lol shells way is harder than that, coming from mega ramp str8 across with 1 jump to mega ledge entrance is harder than that and still ez.

what do u think the hardest is then dael

Well, this is the thing that got me intrested in your jump anyway. Sure, I'm always confused, but that's beside the point. Such a lol/ez response need a bit more backing up than just words imo ;P


And yes adrenal1ne, it's doable. Not super hard, but still nice.

[adrenal1ne]

i know its doable as i said my newb ass has done it before ..


edit: thats not the way i did it dael when i did it i hit arena floor 

[daelmun]

oh, ok. Think I seen a demo of it on demosquad, by apkis, but it looked sorta fake but guess it could be done 

 

[[TC]Granny]

i said doing arena jump in 1 and or shells to hyper to mega, is harder than hyper edge to mega. that jump is just 1 that no one bothers to do but if u practice for 20 min u can do it np  ive played edge with store points and trust me its np.

[daelmun]

Hehe, that can be said about the two jumps you mentioned as well, and I will say that either of those are less of np, at least for me.

Now I try to be objective when judging how hard a jump is. The first thing I go for is: number of attempts untill I first made it. I know, this isn't a constant factor, because as I jumped I increased my jumping abilities thus making harder jumps feel a bit easier. This is where the practice comes in, and all jumps gets easier by practice.

Now, the point I try to make is that the gl to mega in one jump isn't as hard, because the jump can be done in several ways, with different startingpoints and where the 2nd jump is executed from (as shown in this little demo, I made to underline this point). Now, this is a good indication for me that a jump indeed is harder, that there are limited ways of doing it. Also, the distance you get from this jump is farther than the distance gained from the hyper to mega, as you get a lot more distance from the jumps than needed to reach the ledge. 3rd point is that there are no physical obstacles that is in your way doing the gl to mega, it's open area. Hyper to mega you need to jump down in a corner, not hitting the wall nor the floor.

Of course, it may be a lot easier with practice, but so does any jump. The point I try to make is that the jump itself is more complicated due to less area in which you can perform the jump, as well as the distance of the jump. The stafe/speedjump skills involved is about the same, it's the positioning of the jump that makes it harder.

lol, I love this

[[TC]Granny]

yes there is many ways to do arena jump but i was talking about 1 in particular.. that being the 1 where u come from above cg towards gl and 1 jump then jump off and land on mega ledge all in 1 motion quickly. its not hard but its equal to or around the same difficulty as the 1 you did. and the hardest being from shells. i dont find any of the jmups in mega to be the hardest.
why dont u play jump mod dael, i think ud gain a different perspective