Add ztn & trdm maps to DM

[console]

Space got removed!? BOOOOOOO that was a fun map. I'm serious.

space and train are merely removed from the default rotation.  They can still be mymap'd.

(As it happens, other admins and I had occasionally discussed removing these maps from the rotation, and I'd already attempted to address their polarizing nature a bit by reducing the train fraglimit to 15 and the space fraglimit to 20.  So Tubby's input could perhaps be considered to have triggered a tipping point by way of tossing another pebble on the scale of an ongoing debate. ... And whatnot, such-an-such, and so-forth.)

Players in DM contiuously 'mymap' the few nonconventional maps currently available on that server.

No they don't. Continuously is very far from the truth. In all the time I've played on the DM server since 2006, I've only seen someone mymap a non q2dm* map a handful of times.

It is indeed far from continuous.  The frequency does appear to have picked up a little bit lately, but it's still only a handful of times in a 24-hour period.  Here's the past 18 months or so:

http://db.tastyspleen.net/~dorkbuster/temp/110602-dm-custom-mymaps.txt

[ztev0]

it's mainly kbreeze who mymaps on DM cause he does it on railz too (god bless him  ) atleast he plays the maps he mymaps though. One thing i would change about DM would be to remove the BFG from all maps, or atleast have one full rotation with no BFG like they do with the quad 

[Sgt. Dick]

I think the whole problem here is that you're all simply afraid of change. You refuse to accept that new concepts and ideas could possibly result in positive change, and, like them, you scorn and deride anyone who dares to challenge your preconcieved ideas around what you consider to be the 'right' way of doing things.

No Tubby, we actually like what we have and don't want to see it changed, Dumbass.

Like Derv said, if you want to play those maps, take your butt to Mutant and load them and play.  There is your solution, now it is up to you to do it.
If you are so into change, change the server you play on to Mutant, problem solved. 

[yahoo]

One thing i would change about DM would be to remove the BFG from all maps, or atleast have one full rotation with no BFG like they do with the quad 

Or remove Tubby from the map

[Zeppelin]

Why do you allways pick on the fat kid Tubby???

 

[yahoo]

zepooooooooooooooooo

[Tubby]

OK, how about a compromise:

Console has already added several new maps to DM as mymap options (including a few ztn maps). So, why not just add the whole ztn and trdm map sets to DM as 'mymap' options?

Surely this couldn't offend anyone: Players will be able to choose for themselves whether or not they want to play them.

[ztev0]

OK, how about a compromise:

Console has already added several new maps to DM as mymap options (including a few ztn maps). So, why not just add the whole ztn and trdm series as mymap options?

Surely this couldn't offend anyone, since players will be able to choose for themselves whether or not to play them.

just out of curiosity how many of these maps have you personally mymapped in say the last year on any server? And why DM when you spend most your time on vanilla?

[[BTF]Sigma]

Why should it change period? Why compromise when a perfectly valid solution has been presented.

Compromise is just another euphemism for, "Do what I want."

The players are not trying to gain anything out of this like you are. It's not like there were two changes presented and we need to find a medium between them. You want things changed and nobody else does.

I really don't understand why it's so hard for people like you to accept that some things are beyond your influence. Not all things. I mean, you can choose to go play on MUTANT and use the Invite function to call over those people who want to play your mymap submissions.

Let people choose how they want to play. This is a perfect solution that takes minimal effort. Go to MUTANT, mymap your maps and send an invite broadcast to the servers. When you finish your map on there you can just migrate over to the DM and keep playing it as it is.

TAH DAH!!! Maximum solution, minimum effort.

[fdrjk]

I've never seen a trdm map.

[Sgt. Dick]

Why not just add the ztn and trdm maps to DM as 'mymap' options?

They are probably already available on MUTANT, if not Console would probably be willing to add any that are not there.

Let us know when you are available and I'm sure their are a few of us who would go play MUTANT with you.
Some of us might get some satisfaction fragging you for being so stubborn.

You seem to have a hard time comprehending people's recommendations, so I will give it one more try.

MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT  MUTANT

[ztev0]

 

[Tubby]

No Tubby, we actually like what we have and don't want to see it changed, Dumbass.

You want things changed and nobody else does.

This is nothing but arrogant hypocrisy:

You somehow consider yourselves qualified to speak for every player in the Q2 community (arrogant), while deriding me for putting forward my own personal views (hypocrisy).

Take a good long look in the mirror guys.


BTW I don't play at Mutant because it's empty most of the time, and 'invites' rarely seem to attract people from other servers.

[ztev0]

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the same players on DM day in day out, you know why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE CLASSIC DM MAPS

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the same players on vanilla day in day out, you know why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE A MIXTURE OF STOCK MAPS AND DM MAPS

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the sameplayers on mutant, why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE CUSTOM MAPS. <---- so mutant is the place for you to go. i am sure if you go there and invite, a swarm of players would join up just to get a piece of you

[Tubby]

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the same players on DM day in day out, you know why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE CLASSIC DM MAPS

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the same players on vanilla day in day out, you know why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE A MIXTURE OF STOCK MAPS AND DM MAPS

Fact : in the year i have been here, I have seen the sameplayers on mutant, why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE CUSTOM MAPS. <---- so mutant is the place for you to go. i am sure if you go there and invite, a swarm of players would join up just to get a piece of you

Fact: In the 13 years I have been playing Q2, I have seen players come & go, servers come and go. You know why? BECAUSE SOCKS START TO STINK WHEN YOU DON'T CHANGE THEM.

Fact: In the 13 years I have been playing Q2, I have also seen the same players on Vanilla-type servers day in and day out. You know why? BECAUSE THOSE PLAYERS ARE BORED SHITLESS WITH Q2dm1-8.

Fact: In the 13 years I have been playing Q2, everyone has been trying to get a piece of me. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE JEALOUS OF MY AWESOME Q2 SKILLS, SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE, AND STUNNING GOOD LOOKS.