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Re: Revamping
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2010, 08:41:01 AM »
Derv is an admin indeed, of his own server, and thats about it.

That's all I've ever claimed to be, and I've repeatedly made it known that I do not want to be a TS admin and that I don't feel that I could follow the guidelines that they are required to follow. I prefer to be able to ban fucktards for nothing more than being fucktards. (call it the Sheepfucker rule if you will)

Look, officer cheaterpolice, if people (including us, you idiot) use hacks or cheats, on tastyspleen, deserve to get forced ac or banned, that will happen.
This is done by the great admins and moderators of TS.

Who do you think clues them in on who is cheating? The cheat fairy?

Are you really so fucking stupid that you don't understand that the volunteer admins on TS don't have all the time in the world to chase down aliasing cheating little newbies every day, like some of your former clan members?

I regularly share any info I have with them on the development of new cheats and the behavior patterns and occasional AC catches that I see for people who don't seem to be entirely legit.

You're the one who really needs to brush up on the basics here sheepfucker.


aaaanyway:

Here's the deal. I'm tired of all this stupid Vital and his flunky cheater clan related bullshit.

If you're dumb enough to let this newbie cheater lead you anywhere, then I no longer trust you or your judgement.
This applies to anyone in {X} or RB or whatever his clan's name will be tomorrow after he shits all over the reputation of the current one.

If you have a shit ton of bad checks on the ac site, and I don't trust you, you're not going to be playing on IRTDM.
If you act like a cunt and I don't trust you, you're not going to be playing on IRTDM.

Sheeple: You've got all 3 of those bases covered... So go eat vital's dick, and cry more about how you don't get to play instagib and get tooled by pretty much everyone on my servers.
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Re: Revamping
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2010, 09:17:22 AM »
Lmao you are such a stuck up prick. This really makes me laugh.

I have friends in this clan, and i have fun with them,
ofcourse i will stay, regardless of dickheads like you calling us all cheaters, while you know god damn well that most of us have never cheated, and those who did got either kicked the fuck out, or forced ac.

What do you think i cant sleep at night cuz of some retard who banned me from his 2 little servers and his huge e-attitude? Hahahahaha wow i really cracked myself up here, go fuck yourself.

If i want to play itdm, i go out and do that, you think you and your servers are needed for that?  :exqueezeme: Theres plenty servers with the possibility of voting itdm-mode.

Also the 3rd part about file checks is a lie, you should know that mr. cheaterpolice atleast get the info right. ( I bet you actually knew this but still posted it because you think it has meaning in some way)
I havent failed a check since the cheaterpolice told me i had bad files, we call them bad files because they COULD POSSIBLY be something you shouldn't have, doesnt make you a hacker, you fucking tard, makes you someone without knowledge of pakfiles just trying to make his quake look cool. <--- which was obviously me a couple of months ago.


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I thought SkillShot left our clan for different reasons, now its obvious you just forced his ass out, again you show what a powerhorny slut you are, fuck you and die slow.  :please:
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Re: Revamping
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2010, 09:31:16 AM »


Those aren't hits from .pak files. Those are bad renderer checks from a guy who hangs out with a clan that has known wallhackers on their server almost every day, and which is lead by an admitted wallhacker.
Some of them are hits on TS but one is a bad check from Playground.ru, which is a server where Razor commonly tests out his hax because nobody knows of him there.

It's kind of funny that you'd go to some server you never play on, and where nobody in NA would see the kick, and then fuck with your renderer settings, one time. To me that looks like someone testing something that they don't want anyone to see if it fails.

Because I don't trust you, I'm not willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that those were repeated instances of false positives or flubbed attempts to change your renderer to something else (no reason to do this anyway)

Laugh all you want.


ps. If Skillshot left, it's for reasons that are entirely his own. Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with your punk ass anymore, or your cheater clan leader. He's a nice guy and a good sport, and I've wondered on multiple occasions why he was ever associated with you.

He's welcome on my servers any time.





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Re: Revamping
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2010, 09:52:15 AM »
LMAO idiot on you.
That shit actually does come from a pak, which used to block me from irtdm, you told me i should get rid of them, i told you it was just my high res pak, downloaded FROM TASTYSPLEEN, after i got sick of not being able to play on irtdm, i got rid of them, and never used them again  ::)
Or did my message magically disappear?  :dohdohdoh:

If you are 100% sure its not possible to get unknown-renderer message from a pak, there is ONE more possibility, which is : i used to use software, because i had a broken vid card, my quake wouldnt start anymore, so i started fucking with the vid_ref, by the help of your own clanmember Realistic, he helped me target quake2 in a way that it would actually launch in software, some vid_ref command @ options/target i can't really remember..
I'll see if i still have the pak and upload it, but only to prove your dumb ass wrong.

P.S. I've been using anticheat for as long as i know how to use it  :humm:
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Re: Revamping
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2010, 09:58:10 AM »
LMAO idiot on you.
<snip> to prove your dumb ass wrong.


Prove away newb.

Those kicks are for changing settings in your client in an attempt to use an unknown and/or unapproved renderer .dll
Someone who was attempting to use a previously unknown wallhack would do the exact same thing, and get the exact same kick message.


Approved renderers include the stock ref_soft.dll, ref_gl.dll and r1ch's ref_r1gl.dll. There is no reason to use anything other than those three, and if your system can handle it, there's pretty much no reason not to use ref_r1gl all the time.

If you were using software mode, you should have been using the stock ref_soft.dll that came with q2, and the kicks wouldn't have happened because that renderer is not "unknown".

The renderer .dll resides in the quake2 folder, and not baseq2 or a mod folder. No amount of paks will change the location at which the client will look for the renderer.

Renderers and other .dll files don't go in paks. They go in the quake2 folder with your client executable.


( Shit i thought you knew this basic information :rtfm: )

you should know that <snip> at least get the info right.


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Re: Revamping
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2010, 10:42:18 AM »

Approved renderers include the stock ref_soft.dll, ref_gl.dll and r1ch's ref_r1gl.dll. There is no reason to use anything other than those three, and if your system can handle it, there's pretty much no reason not to use ref_r1gl all the time.

If you were using software mode, you should have been using the stock ref_soft.dll that came with q2, and the kicks wouldn't have happened because that renderer is not "unknown".


Exactly, my problem was, my quake wouldnt let me in on the normal ref_soft, so i got a new one, im quite sure i even got it from r1ch.. NOOB ON YOU..
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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2010, 10:58:14 AM »
Exactly, my problem was, my quake wouldnt let me in on the normal ref_soft, so i got a new one, im quite sure i even got it from r1ch.. NOOB ON YOU..

so you're saying you had a ref_soft.dll that wasn't stock and AC kept kicking you.

Soooo... Where did you get a ref_soft.dll that doesn't work with AC circa 2010?
If it was an unchanged copy of the stock ref_soft.dll, you would not have 11 kicks spread over a 4 month period for using it.

If you weren't taking this non-stock .dll out of your folder over and over for some reason, YOUR Q2 WOULD NOT HAVE CONNECTED WITH AC ON THE DAYS IN BETWEEN THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWING ON THE AC SHAME SITE FOR 4 MONTHS.

Sooo, either you didn't play q2 for 4 months (you did, so that's out) or you kept taking that bad .dll out of the folder and using the stock one to connect, or you stopped using AC most of the time and continued using your admittedly non-stock ref_soft.dll for 4 months.

You just claimed this, so option #3 is out:
P.S. I've been using anticheat for as long as i know how to use it  :humm:


This story that you're telling me really doesn't sound very legit.

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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2010, 11:04:07 AM »
I for one have been a member of IR for like nearly 5 years and i assure you whirling always knows what he is talking about. This is all important stuff. WHAT is RB thinking, we all know they are hacking for sure!  Newbs.
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Re: Revamping
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2010, 11:08:06 AM »
i assure you whirling always knows what he is talking about.

I spotted your walling ass thru aliases on multiple occasions, without access to IP addresses.

l00ks like you're right for once.


btw, the newbsicle above has never been associated with |iR| in any way short of getting beat by some of us while walling and denying it.
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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2010, 11:37:45 AM »
i assure you whirling always knows what he is talking about.

First of all you're wrong
Second, Your opinion means nothing trolltard.  :lol:



Exactly, my problem was, my quake wouldnt let me in on the normal ref_soft, so i got a new one, im quite sure i even got it from r1ch.. NOOB ON YOU..

so you're saying you had a ref_soft.dll that wasn't stock and AC kept kicking you.


I said i tried the normal ref_soft.dll,
it failed to work on my crappy ex-machine,
so i requested the man himself (r1ch) to help me out, and he did.
Back then i couldn't even kick your ass in quake (I started playing somewhere in september 2009), I'm sure you remember some of our games on railz when u used the name Porchbeef, u beat me plenty games when i just started playing,
no one ever accused me of hacks except you, because of your obsessive behavior on bad file checks.
UNKNOWN RENDERER OWH TEH NOES MUST BE A HACKER. MUST.. TELL... EVERYONEEEEEEE.

Can't find those messages that went to r1ch, i think that was via e-mail, not even gonna bother to dig it up, this is more then enough proof imo, if you think it isn't, fuck you.
Here's a old PM from me to console wondering what the fuck was wrong with my quake,
It's only a small part since my outbox here doesnt seem to save my messages. He only quoted what he needed a reply on..


Quote from: console
Quote from: FuckingSheep
Fuckingsheep was kicked for anticheat violation
You are sing an unknown vid_ref version. please only use the latest version of R1GL, NoCheat GL, Ref_GL or Ref_soft.

Hi,

That would appear to be the problem.

If you run the r1q2 updater, it should download the latest ref_r1gl.dll for you.  (Assuming you are using r1gl... if not, what is your vid_ref set to?)


Regards,

quadz



You think I would ask console for help on my vid_ref / unknown renderer / whatever the fuck, if i was cheating?  :lolsign:

Thanks for showing how much of an obsessive idiot you are.

I have never cheated, never will.

 :ilysign:
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« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2010, 11:39:40 AM »

Sooo, either you didn't play q2 for 4 months (you did, so that's out) or you kept taking that bad .dll out of the folder and using the stock one to connect, or you stopped using AC most of the time and continued using your admittedly non-stock ref_soft.dll for 4 months.

You just claimed this, so option #3 is out:
P.S. I've been using anticheat for as long as i know how to use it  :humm:

This story that you're telling me really doesn't sound very legit.

 :erhmmm:

Care to explain how you were able to connect with AC and not get kicked ALL of the time for at least 4 months, up until you supposedly got a stock renderer to replace the bad one that was getting you kicked?

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« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2010, 11:42:50 AM »

Sooo, either you didn't play q2 for 4 months (you did, so that's out) or you kept taking that bad .dll out of the folder and using the stock one to connect, or you stopped using AC most of the time and continued using your admittedly non-stock ref_soft.dll for 4 months.

You just claimed this, so option #3 is out:
P.S. I've been using anticheat for as long as i know how to use it  :humm:

This story that you're telling me really doesn't sound very legit.

 :erhmmm:


There you go idiot, u just gave me another theory that it probably DID come from the pak file, cuz all i had to do to get into irtdm was get my pak out of my baseq2.
I was used to my pak, high res, and sounds, so whenever i went to other servers i put the pakfile back in my baseq2..
After a while i chose not use it anymore, cuz i was tired of constantly having to go in my baseq2 just to get a pak out..



Care to explain how you were able to connect with AC and not get kicked ALL of the time for at least 4 months, up until you supposedly got a stock renderer to replace the bad one that was getting you kicked?



Actually no, i don't care to explain anything more at all, why would I anyway? So you can solve the puzzle and sleep at night?
I'm tired of your idiot ass thinking i use cheats or hacks, just makes u an idiot, everyone i play knows better.
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« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2010, 12:25:49 PM »
There you go idiot, u just gave me another theory that it probably DID come from the pak file, cuz all i had to do to get into irtdm was get my pak out of my baseq2.
I was used to my pak, high res, and sounds, so whenever i went to other servers i put the pakfile back in my baseq2..
After a while i chose not use it anymore, cuz i was tired of constantly having to go in my baseq2 just to get a pak out..

The only files you aren't allowed to use on IRTDM that would be in your pak files, are non-stock male/female player models (.md2 and .md3), nonstock versions of the step sounds and the railgun hum, and non-stock in-hand weapon models.

You'll also get kicked if you remove any of these resources from your game folders and don't have at least one copy that's being loaded.

All of those files can easily give a player an advantage and none of them can be verified to not be hacks from my end, so I don't give a shit about what you're used to. If you use all of 5 stock sounds and all stock models then you can get in.
(well you can't but someone else could  :o ) If you don't you'll get kicked. These kicks are not logged on the ac shame site because they are entirely up to the admin of the server in question. They are not the same thing as your repeated renderer violations.

Textures (high res or not) and skins are the most commonly changed files in Q2, and they are not checked.
If you're too stupid to edit the models and sounds out of a .pak file, that's not my fault. It's also something I addressed (because I know some people are just that stupid) by putting up a .pak on the |iR| website that anyone running into the file check kicks can download and put in their tourney folder to fix the problem in seconds with no technical knowledge beyond knowing how to download a file and move it to a folder. A cool side effect of the IRTDM servers still running the OSP tourney mod is that if you put that pak in your "tourney" folder it will ONLY change your setup for OSP servers like IRTDM, and since all of Tastyspleen's TDM servers are running OpenTDM you'd be able to use your nonstock models and sounds on them without doing anything at all.

I've also repeatedly shown anyone who asked me, exactly how to edit their .pak files, and I've linked uncounted Q2 players to the very utility they need to accomplish this feat.

Here's the pak:
http://ir.tastyspleen.net/files/irtdm.pak

Here's Wally, the program for editting the .pak files that you already have:
http://dervish.tastyspleen.net/files/wally_155b.exe



Care to explain how you were able to connect with AC and not get kicked ALL of the time for at least 4 months, up until you supposedly got a stock renderer to replace the bad one that was getting you kicked?

Actually no, i don't care to explain anything more at all, why would I anyway? So you can solve the puzzle and sleep at night?
I'm tired of your idiot ass thinking i use cheats or hacks, just makes u an idiot, everyone i play knows better.

I don't think you have an explanation for that which makes any sense or which doesn't prove that you were lying about something else. Prove me wrong or STFU.
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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2010, 12:38:58 PM »
The... page... says... "UNKNOWN RENDERER". That specifies that the (***allegedly***) offending file is the video DLL, a file which cannot be used in a pak file under normal circumstances because of it's directory placement. That file is usually found in the Quake2 folder, not the baseq2 folder or anything further. If your story is "It was a weird pak and was not intentional", surely you can see why someone might be skeptical. I'm pretty skeptical of the story myself. I have a huge collection of paks I've harvested from all over the web. I've tested each and every single one of them on Tastyspleen servers while using AC. Only one caused me to be kicked for spiked grenade launcher projectile models, probably the same pak that Realistic used to have for download on his TS page. It's since been removed. I've also made tons of paks. I've made paks designed to work with 3.20 specifically, and paks designed for use with R1Q2+r1GL. I have NEVER EVER encountered a problem where any item I could possibly edit or place in a pak file would cause AC to report an "unknown renderer".

I'm not trying to jump your shit here. If you've never been demoed using hacks against people and you're currently using AC 100% of the time (especially if its of your own volition), then I can't complain at all. But I would like to see this argument settled if it's at all possible. The only way I see that happening is by you uploading or linking to the pak which you claim caused this false report. I'm curious to find out how a pak could be reported in that way.
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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2010, 03:24:44 PM »
I don't think you have an explanation for that which makes any sense or which doesn't prove that you were lying about something else. Prove me wrong or STFU.

*SIGH*
You might wanna read back on the part where i explain the ref_soft.dll i used was obviously NOT the stock one, But one i got from R1ch's website, it was used back in like 2005.. since the STOCK version did NOT WORK ON MY MACHINE.

Never thought i had to do this but, ill just fucking quote myself   :frustration:




I said i tried the normal ref_soft.dll,
it failed to work on my crappy ex-machine,
so i requested the man himself (r1ch) to help me out, and he did.

Can't find those messages that went to r1ch, i think that was via e-mail, not even gonna bother to dig it up, this is more then enough proof imo, if you think it isn't, fuck you.
Here's a old PM from me to console wondering what the fuck was wrong with my quake,
It's only a small part since my outbox here doesnt seem to save my messages. He only quoted what he needed a reply on.. the problem i had obviously..


Quote from: console
Quote from: FuckingSheep
Fuckingsheep was kicked for anticheat violation
You are using an unknown vid_ref version. please only use the latest version of R1GL, NoCheat GL, Ref_GL or Ref_soft.

Hi,

That would appear to be the problem.

If you run the r1q2 updater, it should download the latest ref_r1gl.dll for you.  (Assuming you are using r1gl... if not, what is your vid_ref set to?)


Regards,

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You think I would ask console for help on my vid_ref / unknown renderer / whatever the fuck, if i was cheating?  :lolsign:

Thanks for showing how much of an obsessive idiot you are.

I have never cheated, never will.

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Hahahah funny shit, i found the update too, from 2008, which definitely provides 100% proof of the problem i had.
http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1605.0
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Side note : If ever, you see someone, that's probably just new to the game, instead of a wallhacker, with a unknown renderer violation, be a good officer of the cheaterpolice and give them the link i just posted, that might help.   :nana:

Thanks for showing how much of an obsessive idiot you are.

fuck you.

If anyone wonders why i made this post, the reason is that Whirlingdervish is an obsessive douchebag.

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