looking to upgrade

[VaeVictis]

I was under the impression the conversation had transitioned to overclocking in general.  I'll quote myself from a few posts ago

getting a dedicated graphics card would really be the safer and better solution

I agree =)

I was agreeing with you that for Alpha's situation, his top priority would be to ditch the onboard graphics for a real GPU.  My other comments are addressing overclocking in general, and a commonly held, but in my opinion naive attitude about how all overclocking is viewed as
THE DEVIL 

its not viewed as the devil, but at the current time with current hardware on the market it isnt needed

im running a 3ghz quad core that will burn through anything i throw at it easily... why would i need to make it a 3.6 quad core that would burn through everything i throw at it equally as good... at stock clocks i get to keep a low voltage, low temps, and have a longer life of my processor

[QwazyWabbit]

Overclocking is interesting if you are in it simply to see how fast you can get some speed test to run. It has no real world application for users unless you are doing global warming modeling and need answers fast.

Why overclock for a game that updates server info every 100 milliseconds? So you can crunch SETI data between mouse clicks?

[Punk_FAS]

Alpha's words are a little confusing.  He states he wants more performance, but Quake 2 runs fine, but his machine won't play new games, but he only plays Quake 2 anyway.  So why is he upgrading?  I'm assuming he would like to toy around with some of these newer games that don't run so well.

Where do you live Alpha?

This would be a GREAT deal, but I think you're in the UK or something?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=258530&t=2155310

I'm not sure if Newegg ships to the UK, or if the prices would be the same.

[Punk_FAS]

I was under the impression the conversation had transitioned to overclocking in general.  I'll quote myself from a few posts ago

getting a dedicated graphics card would really be the safer and better solution

I agree =)

I was agreeing with you that for Alpha's situation, his top priority would be to ditch the onboard graphics for a real GPU.  My other comments are addressing overclocking in general, and a commonly held, but in my opinion naive attitude about how all overclocking is viewed as
THE DEVIL 

its not viewed as the devil, but at the current time with current hardware on the market it isnt needed

im running a 3ghz quad core that will burn through anything i throw at it easily... why would i need to make it a 3.6 quad core that would burn through everything i throw at it equally as good... at stock clocks i get to keep a low voltage, low temps, and have a longer life of my processor

If you're just using your computer for entertainment purposes (like myself and a lot of other people) then OC'ng isn't really all that necessary nowadays, like you said.  Especially if you have a 3+ GHz quad-core.  Some encoding/decoding, photoshop, or other programs still require a huge hunk of processing power, so a ~25% boost in performance could definitely make a noticeable difference, especially if the encoding you're doing is already taking many minutes or over an hour to complete.  If you're already running 60+ FPS in a game though, you're unlikely to really see the difference another 15 FPS would make.

[VaeVictis]

Alpha's words are a little confusing.  He states he wants more performance, but Quake 2 runs fine, but his machine won't play new games, but he only plays Quake 2 anyway.  So why is he upgrading?  I'm assuming he would like to toy around with some of these newer games that don't run so well.

Where do you live Alpha?

This would be a GREAT deal, but I think you're in the UK or something?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=258530&t=2155310

I'm not sure if Newegg ships to the UK, or if the prices would be the same.

hes ausie i believe... at least around there

I was under the impression the conversation had transitioned to overclocking in general.  I'll quote myself from a few posts ago

getting a dedicated graphics card would really be the safer and better solution

I agree =)

I was agreeing with you that for Alpha's situation, his top priority would be to ditch the onboard graphics for a real GPU.  My other comments are addressing overclocking in general, and a commonly held, but in my opinion naive attitude about how all overclocking is viewed as
THE DEVIL 

its not viewed as the devil, but at the current time with current hardware on the market it isnt needed

im running a 3ghz quad core that will burn through anything i throw at it easily... why would i need to make it a 3.6 quad core that would burn through everything i throw at it equally as good... at stock clocks i get to keep a low voltage, low temps, and have a longer life of my processor

If you're just using your computer for entertainment purposes (like myself and a lot of other people) then OC'ng isn't really all that necessary nowadays, like you said.  Especially if you have a 3+ GHz quad-core.  Some encoding/decoding, photoshop, or other programs still require a huge hunk of processing power, so a ~25% boost in performance could definitely make a noticeable difference, especially if the encoding you're doing is already taking many minutes or over an hour to complete.  If you're already running 60+ FPS in a game though, you're unlikely to really see the difference another 15 FPS would make.

overclocking is more of a novelty now, you can still get some performance increase in stuff like video encoding and such.. but honestly, how many people who seriously do video editing and such dont already have an extremely powerful processor that will get the job done just fine?

i mean you have to build yourself a set up to overclock too anyway.. so the average person isnt just gonna go "hey i got this pc, lets see how much better it will perform" lol you need a case with decent cooling, not one of those single 80mm fan cases... and you also need a better than stock heatsink, and a motherboard that will take some slight stress, not a cheap off brand pos... perhaps ram with some heat spreaders or heatsinks on them... you cant just take a walmart special pc and get a 25% overclock on it