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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2010, 04:04:00 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2010, 04:26:08 AM »
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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2010, 05:20:05 AM »
antidisestablishmentarianism - A movement opposing separation of church and state (specifically created for the separation of the Anglican Church from the English government during the 1800's).

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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2010, 10:18:24 AM »
I like "XTRA"

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« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2010, 10:20:14 AM »
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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2010, 10:38:38 AM »
And IF we are certain on this third server should we start another topic deciding the map rotation? :yessign:
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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2010, 03:16:17 PM »
Just rotate them all!

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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2010, 03:25:09 PM »
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I'm likely to set up a third server, and let the community vote on the maplist for that server.

How about making all maps available in the mymap list, and let the community vote on the rotation.

Benefits...

  • No one's work is excluded from either of the current two server options, as is currently the case
  • No need to jump from server to server for the sake of being able to play the full variety of maps available
  • The integrity of XRAZY's "ambience" and or "themed" server is still an option, as well as the XATRIX server's mostly classic style maps
  • No more pondering where to place maps that don't fit the XRAZY and or XATRIX styled maps. ALL maps would go to this new server, and those maps that are appropriate for XRAZY and or XATRIX would also be placed there

To add a third server and have maps voted in, doesn't solve my desire to be able to play maps from one server, nor does it provide a suitable solution for maps that don't "belong" on XRAZY or XATRIX, and DON'T get voted in to the new server...

I think with some careful thought on this proposed compromise, this could satisfy the majority.

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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2010, 03:45:32 PM »
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I'm likely to set up a third server, and let the community vote on the maplist for that server.

How about making all maps available in the mymap list, and let the community vote on the rotation.

Benefits...

  • No one's work is excluded from either of the current two server options, as is currently the case
  • No need to jump from server to server for the sake of being able to play the full variety of maps available
  • The integrity of XRAZY's "ambience" and or "themed" server is still an option, as well as the XATRIX server's mostly classic style maps
  • No more pondering where to place maps that don't fit the XRAZY and or XATRIX styled maps. ALL maps would go to this new server, and those maps that are appropriate for XRAZY and or XATRIX would also be placed there

To add a third server and have maps voted in, doesn't solve my desire to be able to play maps from one server, nor does it provide a suitable solution for maps that don't "belong" on XRAZY or XATRIX, and DON'T get voted in to the new server...

I think with some careful thought on this proposed compromise, this could satisfy the majority.

EX

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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2010, 04:23:46 PM »
[li]The integrity of XRAZY's "ambience" and or "themed" server is still an option,

Yeah - we played a couple of old school map on xrazy yesterday. Great ambience and theme!  :yuck:
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Re: XATRIX & XRAZY
« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2010, 06:58:27 PM »
Quadz, why dont we try putting ALL THE MAPS in one server for like, a week and see how it goes?  :please: It would shut everyone up!  :notworthy:
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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2010, 09:00:52 PM »
Take a chill pill Fader, and try to offer something worth reading.

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« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »
What? Its a suggestion.  :dohdohdoh: quadz can set up one server with all maps in it and we can try it out for a week and see if everyone likes it.  :rocketright:
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« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2010, 02:04:10 PM »
Salutations,

Originally my intent for the third server was to allow the map pool to include any xatrix maps & overrides based on a vote by the players (the community vote I mentioned above.)

However, spawngirl has contacted me on IRC, indicating she does not wish her overrides used on other server(s).

What follows is a condensed version of her explanation:

Quote from: spawngirl_irc
Houston We have a problem! :P

I do not want my [overrides] on a third server

[...]

Fader, Exterminander and Debbie do not represent the majority of players. [...] They said that my maps were horrible ad nauseam. Especially Debbie and Exterminander that in this case represent a 70 % of the supposed "majority" that they claim to conform (with fader). They said they were ugly, "shitty maps", with large downloads, and with bad location of items, and tortured me repeating it every time we played. So. WTF? Now they want MY OVERRIDES IN A SERVER TO ENJOY MY WORK? I say No.

[...]

I realized more than 120 maps making a great contribution to Tastyspleen, and although I gave up the rights to administer the server, They should know that I continue to deciding what to do with my overrides. I earned that right.

[...]

Xrazy is like a movie chapters secuence: "The mist" "Dawn of Dead" "Space" "cowboys" "Silent Hill" all of them with its own special atmosphere.
Then there is a script in every secuence of maps and I am the director, because I invented Xrazy with a fun purpose, to make something new in quake 2... almost a new mod based in Cinematic atmosphere. Then if someone wanted to make an override then that person should be tailored to my script. I should decide what map, what sounds, what background music etc. Is complicated and Im not asking that and I dont want that.
If you want to play Xrazy maps use "GOTO".
Also Quadz gave me the right of be the "ART Director" of Xrazy. I left my administrator rights but retains the aforementioned.


At this point, from my point of view, it comes down to this:

[03:01:52] <quadz> hi  ...  i can post that in the forums if you want, but i personally don't endorse such restrictions...
[03:04:00] <[XZ]Spawny> yes post that in the forum, because is my gift for my contribution to tastyspleen to have rights over my work
[03:09:48] <quadz> btw, the gift i remember was the free server... but remember that some 47 of your overrides were on xatrix before xrazy existed... i don't think i gave a gift saying "these maps may never be used on other servers" ?  however, at the same time, i would be uncomfortable using your overrides against your wishes


Bottom line, I think it would be setting a bad precedent to use someone's contributions explicitly contrary to their wishes.  (If anyone disagrees with this, I'd be interested in your reasoning.)


Regards,

quadz

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« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2010, 02:45:53 PM »
Quote from: spawngirl_irc

Fader, Exterminander and Debbie do not represent the majority of players. They said that my maps were horrible ad nauseam.

BAH! Spawn Girl you liar! I never said anything about your maps! I always did like your maps and I told you that!  :beer: I dont think you should get off LYING like that! Also, I dont act nice to you just for you to insult me behind my back in IRC!  :grrrr:

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They said they were ugly, "shitty maps", with large downloads, and with bad location of items, and tortured me repeating it every time we played. So. WTF? Now they want MY OVERRIDES IN A SERVER TO ENJOY MY WORK? I say No.

 :WTF: I have no idea why you hate me spawn, but i didnt do anything LIAR!  :ban:



Now that my rage is over lets talk business  :sorry:
 
I think if enough people want her overrides on a third server, then you should put them there, because a majority vote would override her choice of not putting overrides on a third server  :oops:

Also I stand by my vote on putting all maps in one server for less than a week and seeing how it goes  :dohdohdoh:
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