How About a Lithium Server to Replace Vanilla2?

[Slayer :D]

I never see anybody play on the vanilla2 server. So how about removing it and replacing it with a good Lithium server, like one with hook speed 2000, hook pull speed 1250, rocket speed 1500, and a BFG+invulnerability ban? Maybe add techs to go with the runes? Just a thought.

BTW, if you add this server, make sure there are enough runes. It's annoying when somebody gets the Strength rune and there isn't another rune to fight back with.

[yahoo]

we sometimes go there to chat 

[console]

BTW, there's no need to shut down existing servers to add new servers.  (At least, in Dallas.  The New Jersey server is at its limit.)


Anyway..............


Yes, config files would be helpful.


Regards,

quadz

[X7]

Lithium configs
http://q2.backshooters.com/pub/mods/q2/Li2_123a.zip

http://q2.backshooters.com/pub/mods/q2/


Lithium readme Rich bug fixes
http://q2.backshooters.com/pub/mods/q2/lithium-ii-1.25-r1.txt

Lithium Binary
http://tastyspleen.net/quake/downloads/mods/lithiumII-r1ch/





X7 

[peewee_RotA]

Lithium CTF sounds interesting, but isn't lithium just runes and hooks? Is it too terribly different from standard q2 ctf? I think that the original design of Lithium was to bring the CTF runes to deathmatch using stock models (the pyramid key)

[SpawnGirl]

Nobody plays ctf...

[UUD-40]

Nobody plays ctf...

I count 25 players in 3 servers atm. None in the us, though it is Saturday morning.

[m0n0LiTh0]

Nobody plays ctf...

Whole other world out there you know???

http://www.wormlair.com/forum/       

[ToxicMonkey^MZC]

Lithium hook is a good skill.  Not how ctf was originally designed to be played but still cool.  It's all mods now.

Who would play ctf though?

[[BTF] Reflex]

Lithium turns me off on account of no straf jumping

I voted yes because Kangix is a lith god with no players to play it with anymore,  and doesn't come on the forums.

[console]

Alrighty...

Had a little spare time this morning...

There are now two lithium servers:

  GOTO LITHIUM
  GOTO LITHCTF

Both of them have sv_airaccelerate 0, so strafe jumping works.

Currently they are both using the default configs, and the default maplists.

So I presume people will want to suggest some additional maps to add.

...

BTW, the default maplist for ctf is just:

q2ctf1
q2ctf2
q2ctf3
q2ctf4
q2ctf5


But the server has several pak files, so the following maps exist on the server:

maps/2fortgore.bsp
maps/2sides.bsp
maps/as2m1.bsp
maps/as2m2.bsp
maps/as2m3.bsp
maps/as2m4.bsp
maps/as2m5.bsp
maps/as2m6.bsp
maps/as2m7al.bsp
maps/as2m7.bsp
maps/as2m7rb.bsp
maps/as2m7rm.bsp
maps/as2m8.bsp
maps/b4ctfb.bsp
maps/b4ctf.bsp
maps/b5ctf.bsp
maps/beerctf2.bsp
maps/beerctf3.bsp
maps/beerctf5b.bsp
maps/bw.bsp
maps/clones3b.bsp
maps/codctf3.bsp
maps/ctctf1.bsp
maps/ctctf3.bsp
maps/ctffive.bsp
maps/dakctf1.bsp
maps/doom2ctf.bsp
maps/falhavn2.bsp
maps/geminictf.bsp
maps/judctf1.bsp
maps/lfctf10.bsp
maps/lfctf1.bsp
maps/lfctf2.bsp
maps/lfctf3.bsp
maps/lfctf4.bsp
maps/lfctf5.bsp
maps/lfctf6.bsp
maps/lfctf7.bsp
maps/lfctf8.bsp
maps/lfctf9.bsp
maps/lmctf01.bsp
maps/lmctf02.bsp
maps/lmctf03.bsp
maps/lmctf04.bsp
maps/lmctf05.bsp
maps/lmctf06.bsp
maps/lmctf07.bsp
maps/lmctf08.bsp
maps/lmctf09.bsp
maps/lmctf10.bsp
maps/lmctf11.bsp
maps/lmctf12.bsp
maps/lmctf13.bsp
maps/lmctf14.bsp
maps/lmctf15.bsp
maps/lmctf16.bsp
maps/lmctf17.bsp
maps/lmctf18.bsp
maps/lmctf19.bsp
maps/lmctf20.bsp
maps/lmctf21.bsp
maps/lmctf22.bsp
maps/lmctf23.bsp
maps/lmctf24.bsp
maps/lmctf25.bsp
maps/lmctf26.bsp
maps/lmctf27.bsp
maps/lmctf28.bsp
maps/lmctf29.bsp
maps/lmctf30.bsp
maps/lock01.bsp
maps/lock02.bsp
maps/lock03.bsp
maps/lock04.bsp
maps/lsdctf1.bsp
maps/lushctf1.bsp
maps/mcd2m1.bsp
maps/mcshmin5.bsp
maps/mines1.bsp
maps/ospctf1.bsp
maps/purge.bsp
maps/q2ctf10.bsp
maps/q2ctf11.bsp
maps/q2ctf12.bsp
maps/q2ctf13.bsp
maps/q2ctf14.bsp
maps/q2ctf1.bsp
maps/q2ctf2.bsp
maps/q2ctf2k1.bsp
maps/q2ctf3b.bsp
maps/q2ctf3.bsp
maps/q2ctf4a.bsp
maps/q2ctf4.bsp
maps/q2ctf5.bsp
maps/q2ctf6.bsp
maps/q2ctf7.bsp
maps/q2ctf8.bsp
maps/q2ctf9.bsp
maps/q2ctfw1.bsp
maps/q2ctfw2.bsp
maps/q2ctfw3.bsp
maps/q2ctfw4b.bsp
maps/q2ctfw4.bsp
maps/q2ctfw5.bsp
maps/q2ctfw6.bsp
maps/q2dm8ctf.bsp
maps/rtctf1a.bsp
maps/rtctf1.bsp
maps/rtctf2.bsp
maps/rtctf3.bsp
maps/samurai3a.bsp
maps/sctf1.bsp
maps/sctf2.bsp
maps/sctf3.bsp
maps/sctf4.bsp
maps/sctf5.bsp
maps/sctf6.bsp
maps/slabctf5.bsp
maps/sludctf1.bsp
maps/station.bsp
maps/welt.bsp
maps/wet1.bsp
maps/wtfctf1a.bsp
maps/wtfctf2a.bsp
maps/wtfctf3a.bsp
maps/wtfctf4a.bsp
maps/wtfctf5a.bsp
maps/wtfctf6a.bsp
maps/zardoz.bsp


...so the point is, if you want any of these maps added to the map list, let me know which.


Regards,

quadz

[PANTONE 7717C]

Both of them have sv_airaccelerate 0, so strafe jumping works.

Aww no, sorry to complain already but strafe jumping is almost useless in lithium as you can move much faster in this mod than with normal strafe jumping. I mean no experienced lithium player is going to strafejump to Mega on dm1 as he can get to it in less than a second with the hook. Default sv_airaccelerate 10 is by far the best setting to allow the player to move around with high speed, also known as the hookboost or speedjump. You can make turns of 90 degrees at full speed due to the high airaccelerate. With airaccelerate 0 you can't turn at full speed and you'll fly straight forward against the walls. (If the server is setup like this then you can't speedjump like I'm doing in this short demo I attached.)
Yes if you're new to Lithium it feels weird and slow, but once you learn the hookboost most of the other mods seem slow. Also some servers like 'House of PSC' (@backshooters.com) for instance use a very high hookpull speed which makes it impossible to initiate a hookjump because the second you use your hook you're almost being teleported to where you fired the hook. And more importantly, you can't really shoot from mid-air because there's practically no "hangtime". With standard hookpull you can fire the hook at a high wall and quickly release the hook as soon as it pulls you up in the air. Well you can't please all of course, maybe others will like it but I know from experience that I won't.

[console]

If the server is setup like this then you can't speedjump like I'm doing in this short demo I attached.

How does that work?  You need the hook to achieve the initial speed, then you can keep speedjumping at that rate without further use of the hook?

[PANTONE 7717C]

Yes exactly. It was one those things (exploits if you will) that made lithium cool and many old players I know loved it.
Kind of hard to explain, but the trick is NOT to use your forward key at all while doing it. You start by hooking a wall to your side and in front of you (or the floor but that's a lot harder) and the moment it pulls you and you're about to land, you start to bunnyhop and when you need to take a corner you steer with your +moveleft and +moveright keys and/or the mouse.

It only works if there's airaccelerate and the hookpull is not uberfast. You can't steer side to side without the airaccelerate and if the hook's too fast you don't have time to release the hook and get the boost. Plus you'll bump into things before you get a chance to get going. You'll still lose some speed by slightly touching walls and corners but not much.

[Slayer :D]

Reflex]
Lithium turns me off on account of no straf jumping

The hook skill replaces it. It's about as hard too.