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Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« on: July 22, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »
Funny camping spot on grom_dm3

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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 08:24:39 AM »
That is AWESOME, wonder if the mapper knew about that.
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 08:36:21 AM »
I honestly don't think so. It is difficult to set up a situation to do this as you can only get in with a helper ducking for you. (which is easily accomplished by connecting with a second instance of Q2 however ;) ) But there is a similar scenic window further down in which only one entrance can be used, the other is too short to get into because of a slope. Also in the area that I do show in this demo, there is a spot in which you can get stuck. So I'm pretty sure that Grom just figured nobody could get in there and made no effort to bug test it. Although he did spend time texturing and detailing parts of that area that are logicall impossible to view without getting in there.
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 11:41:30 AM »
Almost felt bad killing you in there today...  almost  :D
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 12:13:36 PM »
I honestly don't think so. It is difficult to set up a situation to do this as you can only get in with a helper ducking for you.

Hehe. yeah.. :D 

I noticed that awhile back, and for ages I've been tempted to add a secret teleporter somewhere on the map to provide "non-ducking" access to the atriums.


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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 12:27:47 PM »
could you place a teledest sticking out of the wall just enough to use as a step?
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 12:42:01 PM »
could you place a teledest sticking out of the wall just enough to use as a step?

Hmm, that'd work, too  :D

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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 10:59:21 PM »

somewhat useful grom_dm3 spot
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 12:45:02 PM »
You win  :rockon:
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 05:33:02 PM »
Well, damn.  I always wondered how the hell you get in that area.  That water always looks so tasty...  because of that little inaccessible area, I always thought that map seemed unfinished.
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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2014, 02:36:32 AM »
wiiise fwom your gwave

Thanks for playing my map and having it on the mutant server!

The idea with the 'gardens' was both to have a nice visual addition to the map (it's a bit dull elsewhere on purpose) and a fire corridor which could not (normally) be entered. I liked the idea of firing rockets and rails through the windows to cut the corners.

My playtesters showed me you could get in there but I decided to leave it possible, partly for version control because someone had already put it on a server and partly because I love features like the q2dm1 sky bug. It's not hard to recognise that q2dm1 is a major inspiration for the map, with weapon location being very similar if you think about it. Although mine has a quad.

The second spot is off one of my clip brushes which I probably should have extended to the ceiling, but no matter :)

Cool to see the jumps people are doing as well. You can see the limit of my jumping ability - I had to extend the RA platform slightly because I couldn't make the jump from the MH reliably, but others are better jumpers than me ;)

Anyway this thread can sleep for another 5 years now.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 09:19:31 AM »
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Welcome to the forums! 

and possibly goodbye,  I dunno if you plan on sticking around.



I dunno if this jump is what you meant by the jumpers getting use out of it,  but its a pretty sweet jump from mega platform to the window over rocket launcher ladder.   The link is to a movie file of the demo.

http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15765.0;attach=10221

If that's not what you meant you should have a look :)


Love the map,  thanks for making it :)

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Re: Conventional by Grom (grom_dm3)
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2014, 08:00:51 AM »
Nice! I have seen that jump before but it's not the one I meant - I was talking about the first part of that, the easy(!) one from RA to MH. I extended the floor slightly, you can see the extra little ledge, because I couldn't do it every time.

There are a couple of errors in the map - the endgame camera was not setup so you get a dull picture of a wall when the game ends. There's also a vis portal error under the small bridge in the far corner to the right of the RG chute, if you stand in the open 'arena' area. But there's one of those in q2dm3 so I don't feel too bad about it. Did they ever fix the battleground bug where team members teleport inside each other and get stuck? That kind of spoiled tdm play a bit.

It makes me glad people are still playing it, I loved Quake 2 and played for years until moving to Q3 and CS. Was just looking at old LMCTF demos.

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2014, 11:33:55 AM »
Endgame cameras can be added to maps with a server side file,  I'll have a look around and find a good place for one.
I forgot one on my last map and added one that way, as well as tweaking an item spawn.

Vis portal errors aren't a huge deal either,  dm1 has at least one that I know of.  Dm8 has a few, dm3..   all of them if you look hard enough.  The game covers them up so good it's hard to find the little ones.

The stacked players bug I havnt come across in-game ages and ages,  so I'm guessing it's been fixed.  It might have been a mapping error.   I had it happen with a teleport on refrdm7.bsp while I was testing it.  Moved the teleport just slightly and it went away.
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