Battle of the Sexes Mod

[The Happy Friar]

my little Battle of the Sexes server is running at 71.230.170.126:27910.

are you running linux?  I'm using jay's compiled version.  Could be an issue with that, or q2admin, I haven't tried running w/o it.

Happy Friar,  thanks for all of your effort it is much apprectiated.

you're welcome.     I love running q2 servers. so much fun.    You learn quite a bit too!

[slowmotioneric]

are you running linux?  I'm using jay's compiled version.  Could be an issue with that, or q2admin, I haven't tried running w/o it.

no.  i am running winXP.  The server is just the Quake 2 Full install, with the BotS files in place.  No special clients/server software.

[The Happy Friar]

i'm using r1q2ded, q2admin on linux.  could have something to do with it.

[blrakach]

I just loaded up r1q2ded w/out q2admin.   The issue definately seems to be related to the map voting.   The maps are found if you specify them in the server.cfg, but when you vote in the console, this error appears in the r1q2ded window.

Map lbdbots2 won with 1 vote(s)
Can't find map 'lbdbots2'

After a bit more research,  I found some items on the r1q2ded forums related to maps and voting.   It could be that the r1q2ded vote system is intercepting.  The windows server version probably would'nt have this issue.

This got me down the right path, but I still cant get the system totally working since I dont run q2admin and cant tweak via the q2admin.txt file.

http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=156.0

[blrakach]

Running the win32 dll w/ the same server.cfg settings under wine on ubuntu works perfectly.   Something is up with r1q2ded and/or the compiled linux binary. 

[blrakach]

--- FIXED ---

I Honestly can't believe I didn't try it earlier.   The issue all along was with the CRLF from the DOS vote.lst

Running dos2tounix fixed everything.   Just install tofrodos in ubuntu. 

dos2unix vote.lst

Attached are two *working* vote lists.   

[Hellfire]

I'll try and answer as many questions as I can...

re: docs -- There are no "real" server docs. I wrote the last set of them when the new voting system went in but a) can't find that doc and b) didn't do it very well to begin with. The rainbow under that gloomy cloud is I archived my servers as-is before decommissioning them and I was very, VERY anal about commenting the configs so everything is in there that one could need.

re: voting -- It's always been a kludge. Sorry. Under linux you'll also have issues with case sensitivity on some maps (from the name and/or textures) as q2/bots try to reconcile things. It was on the list, but dev on the q3a port took precedence over "fixing" linux compatibility issues. Note: Spinoza was pretty militantly anti-linux. tbp[Mutiny] did the initial clean-up/fixes to get the code to even consider working after I took over production duties on Q3A. Upside: It works "fine" under win32.

I've always run my stuff with q2admin, never had any issues with compatibility on that front. Can't vouch for any other combo though...

re: The state of things -- There was a LOT of fix-up work left in the q2 side when q3a came out. The decision was made to move out so we did. With some TLC the q2 codebase could likely be cleaned up and made into something pretty decent. q2admin's voting setup and bot detection are better than anything in there now so that could be stripped. The map-rotation code could be simplified. The code never really matched up to what I spec'd in the docs anyway. The game/gameplay themselves are solid, any work at this point would only need to be break/fix!

{{SK4}} is back up. I pushed it to 32 players this morning. The DC I have that vm in currently has 40mb down/20mb up and is largely unused. If it becomes a problem I'll ship it to the downtown location.

[slowmotioneric]

the {{SK4}} server that Hellfire is speaking of is running at... 128.104.224.240:27910

I am decommissioning my server (71.230.170.126:27910) at this point, and we will use Hellfire's for the time being.
Thank you.

[The Happy Friar]

hey hellfire, you're one of the creators? 

[Hellfire]

After a fashion.

A friend of mine and I hosted 4 of the primary q2 servers. I ran the "official" forums during the Q2 era and wrote the spec docs for the map rotation features added in the 3.0 line. I was part of the initial Q3A-BotS team and ultimately served as producer (among other things) for the released mod. At one point I had a brief stint as an adviser for the UT-BotS port heXum was running. There was an aborted TRIBES2 version in there somewhere as well, but we never got past an early skeletal alpha build.

oh, and I threw a pointer in DNS just in case I have to shuttle the server off to the downtown location instead of my office --

sk4.beafraid.com:27910

[slowmotioneric]

...and what time does this go down on Sunday?  5:30pm EST or 9:00pm EST?

[The Happy Friar]

9pm EST.