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Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« on: March 09, 2010, 11:48:02 PM »
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Re: Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 04:37:47 AM »
I used 2 different wallhacks to view this with, both the wh.dll from the cracked franck ratbot bundle AND the badsoul r1gl lookalike, and unfortunately neither one of them show all entities through all walls at all times. Also, because my brightskins are PNG, it was sometimes hard to tell what he might have been paying attention to since the stock athena skins kinda blend with the walls. I'm assuming he wasn't using AC, correct?

Does look a little suspicious. In the first part of the demo when you were mentioning rewinding to the shot at the mega, as he's coming up the stairs, he takes a shot at the top of the box across from the mega first. Even with wallhacks loaded, I couldn't tell that someone had been there at all, nor was there really any way to hear exactly what might've been going on. Maybe he heard a quick "huhu" from the double jump.

At 1:40, xcrx is chaining someone behind the boxes in the corner. He kind of pauses there at the bottom of the steps and it almost appears as though he's watching through the boxes like he's waiting to see if xcrx has enough ammo to finish them off. For someone who was playing that well for the rest of the game, you'd think he'd be quick thinking enough to toss a rocket around the back side of the boxes to head them off since they were obviously trying to evade xcrx's chaingun by ducking back there anyway.

At about 0:39, he perfectly nails the person heading after the upper RL. That looks pretty suspicious to me given the 106 ping.

When someone tells you that someone is probably walling in a demo, it's pretty easy to convince yourself that they are, especially if its a really good player like this guy obviously is (unless he's botting too, didn't really look like it though). So all in all, yeah, it looks somewhat suspicious, but I couldn't say with 100% certainty that all of it was absolutely impossible unless he was cheating.
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Re: Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 09:39:54 AM »
If he wasn't using AC he needs to be.

People who are supposedly that "skilled/lucky" didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
They've been playing long enough to know damn well that there are 4 anticheat clients and that they should be using one, yet so many try to pretend that they don't know what it even is (even though the server nags them every connect and puts links right in their faces)

It's hard to say if a lot of that wasn't just skill combined with the predictability of his opponents, but some of the corner/prediction shots didn't look right when compared to his relatively mediocre ability to make shots in the open. On 100ping it's not impossible to rail in the open and he even shows that he can get some hits while dodgin in the arena in the beginning with mg.
Later on tho (when he's by the hb fighting a guy from like 10 feet away) he can't seem to hit dick in close combat on a skinny ledge.

seems kinda inconsistent for someone who has no trouble moving pretty fast and making prediction shots across large open areas and air rails with a 100+ ping.

To hit that shot at upper rl, a legit player could just listen for the healths followed by the weapon pickup but at that ping you'd shoot too late most of the time.  In his case it was like the exact second that 2 pixels showed over the ledge so yeah kinda iffy.

The shot which looked like it was right at mega (and hit the wall) could have just been a missed spam shot. I do those too and miss a lil on occasion so I hit a doorframe when I'm trying to shoot through a tight spot. If you hear some jumping in there it's not a terrible idea to try to spam one over the ammopack boxes.

I wouldn't say it's proof of hax, because the guy had some good moves and shots in there that were consistent with him being a pretty good player but I also wouldn't call it 100% legit play either. Something about it looks odd.
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Re: Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 12:17:05 PM »
well its definitly a EURO player,imo,and the "h4x" clan is EU too,its probably just one of careems buddies if not himself,there a pretty legit clan and i didnt notice anything suspicious in my eyes,but cant say for sure.
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Re: Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 01:39:18 PM »
Looking over it again it almost seems the guy is dicking around a bit, which would explain why he's not dead on in the open.

Could be due to the high ping or the lack of skill on the opposing team, but he's not trying all that hard during a lot of it.
Just kinda running to a position to cover the armors/mega room and shooting fresh spawned players with the rg..

If the match had been more even teams we'd be able to tell a bit better if he's making lots of shots when he's hard put to do so or just good all around. This seemed more like the standard area control and smother rape type of team game.
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Re: Wallhacker? WATCH DEMO RECENT
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 07:07:41 PM »

the MH shot doesn't imply hacks, as you can hear the double jump and a wait
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 07:12:52 PM »
No foul play here, just a very agressive euro player with a pretty nice rail.... There are a dozen or so players I could think of with a similar style but nothing here that proves any cheating.  ;)
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