Inquiry for you, share your opinion!

[Fryziu]

 
Just type in console three commands:

vid_gamma
intensity
gl_modulate

And share your values.
These are the settings for graphic part of Quake 2, they determine how bright and saturated colors are.
If we collect enough different settings, we may average them out, and make better looking new maps for Quake 2.
Give good feedback, and you will get better looking new maps.

Thnx

[quadz]

These are the settings for graphic part of Quake 2, they determine how bright and saturated colors are.

Note, r1gl (the renderer for r1q2) offers an alternate lighting mode with finer control.

Prior to r1gl I used to use:

set gl_modulate 4
set intensity 3.5
set vid_gamma 0.6


But with r1gl, I use:

set gl_texture_lighting_mode 1
set gl_contrast 0.8
set gl_saturation 1
set gl_modulate 4
set intensity 1
set vid_gamma 0.6
set gl_coloredlightmaps 1
set gl_doublelight_entities 1

[Fryziu]

Note, r1gl (the renderer for r1q2) offers an alternate lighting mode with finer control.

Thank you!
That's how team work looks like,
first post and i get not just an answer,
but The answer.
So guys, from now on:
1.) what client are you using?

if r1q2(r1gl) then give
{
gl_texture_lighting_mode
gl_contrast
gl_saturation
gl_modulate
intensity
vid_gamma
gl_coloredlightmaps
gl_doublelight_entities

} else
{
set gl_modulate
set intensity
set vid_gamma

Is there another wide spread client for Quake 2?

Thnx

[|iR|Focalor]

I use R1Q2 with R1GL.

set vid_gamma "1"
set intensity "2"
set gl_modulate "7"

I like it bright enough to see, but not so bright that it washes out the majority of colors on textures.

Note, r1gl (the renderer for r1q2) offers an alternate lighting mode with finer control.

....

But with r1gl, I use:

set gl_texture_lighting_mode 1
set gl_contrast 0.8
set gl_saturation 1
set gl_modulate 4
set intensity 1
set vid_gamma 0.6
set gl_coloredlightmaps 1
set gl_doublelight_entities 1

See, I guess I never readeded the fucking manual. I had no idea you could tweak the lighting that much.

[Fryziu]

Thank you so much, now there is something to compare.
It seems that most radical changes you can see switching to:
gl_texture_lighting_mode 1

Colours become washed-out and much softer, but with more parameters to tinker with, you can get well balanced lighting, except lamps.
Textures of 2 lamps on u2b3 becomes "weird"
But there is always a risk with shining textures.
And water lights-up.
For comparison, my settings are:

set gl_texture_lighting_mode 0
set gl_modulate 4
set intensity 3
set vid_gamma 0.7

And here's a picture instead of thousand words:

https://youtu.be/XoopVnoifiw

Of course a lot depends on your computer screens, but this is beyond this comparison.
Thnx

[|iR|Focalor]

Cool to see the side by side difference between my current settings and Quadz more involved and tweaked settings. Although, I'm still happier with my current settings. Makes map textures look a little overall darker, but it makes the details on them a little bolder too.

[quadz]

Cool to see the side by side difference between my current settings and Quadz more involved and tweaked settings.

Indeed. It'd been ages (possibly a decade?) since I'd played around with these.

I notice the gl_texture_lighting_mode 1 examples in the video use my gl_contrast 0.8 which probably contributes to them looking a little more washed out.

(I'm not sure if/why I set it that way. I'll probably experiment a bit more, seeing some of the differences.)

[quadz]

I'll probably experiment a bit more

Noticing my contrast 0.8 setting was washing out things a bit, I experimented in the opposite direction:

High-contrast, high-saturation. (Also: Trying for deep shadows, but, had less success in that part.)

set gl_texture_lighting_mode 1
set gl_contrast 2.0
set gl_saturation 1.5
set gl_modulate 2
set intensity 1  // this appears to be ignored in lighting_mode 1
set vid_gamma 0.6
set gl_coloredlightmaps 1
set gl_doublelight_entities 1
set gl_ext_texture_filter_anisotropic "1"
set gl_ext_max_anisotropy "16"
set gl_ext_multisample "1"
set gl_ext_samples "8"
set gl_ext_nv_multisample_filter_hint "nicest"

I'm liking it, though it works better in some maps than others.


q2dm1:

[haunted]

It looks cool, but I'd have to eliminate the shadows and get rid of that bright tropical blue water. Then lower the intensity .2 or so.

[Muerte]

Is there another wide spread client for Quake 2?

Q2PRO http://skuller.net/q2pro/
Q2PRO is an enhanced Quake 2 client and server for Windows and Linux. Supported features include:  fully rewritten OpenGL renderer optimized for stable FPS

Last European Duel League half of players in Division 1 was using q2pro

video settings also depend of monitor type and video card so i wont give you my settings on AGP Nvidia 5500 and 21 year old CRT 

[Muerte]

I'm liking it, though it works better in some maps than others.

I hope you have sunglasses while you play 


https://youtu.be/ZjDxbzyGJ00

[Fryziu]

High-contrast, high-saturation. (Also: Trying for deep shadows, but, had less success in that part.)

set gl_texture_lighting_mode 1
set gl_contrast 2.0
set gl_saturation 1.5
set gl_modulate 2
set intensity 1  // this appears to be ignored in lighting_mode 1
set vid_gamma 0.6
set gl_coloredlightmaps 1
set gl_doublelight_entities 1
set gl_ext_texture_filter_anisotropic "1"
set gl_ext_max_anisotropy "16"
set gl_ext_multisample "1"
set gl_ext_samples "8"
set gl_ext_nv_multisample_filter_hint "nicest"

I like juicy visuals, but this is pure acid!
Slime on q2dm3 turned canary green, and lava literally burns my eyes.
Every texture have green bits with this config, and my framerate plummeted down... ?
Thank you for this new experience
I will use it as an extreme case, maybe it is possible to hide something on the map, that is invisible until you turn full acid :p

[Fryziu]

Q2PRO http://skuller.net/q2pro/
Q2PRO is an enhanced Quake 2 client and server for Windows and Linux. Supported features include:  fully rewritten OpenGL renderer optimized for stable FPS

Last European Duel League half of players in Division 1 was using q2pro

video settings also depend of monitor type and video card so i wont give you my settings on AGP Nvidia 5500 and 21 year old CRT 

Thank you, i'll try Q2Pro.
I have 21" Philips Brilliance CRT, that has best image quality there is, 120HZ and buzzes to me
So please, just give your numbers.

Thnx

[quadz]

I like juicy visuals, but this is pure acid!
Slime on q2dm3 turned canary green, and lava literally burns my eyes.

Doubt I'll leave it setup that way for long. But it's been fun to see familiar maps in a new way.