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January 31, 2011, 04:35:31 PM »
after readin the other thread, i fealt i had to post this demo. First of all i was reluctant to post it cause i had been told that a2g was an oldschool player who has been around for a long ass time, but after speccing him a few times i am convinced he is atleast walling. I did send this same demo to quadz but i don't know the outcome of that so i am going to post the same demo here for everyone to see. Its only a short demo, when he is on frag 24 he is ontop of the fragpipe, he clearly waits because he knew someone was comming, no sound que. u will see what i mean. But seriously why not just use anticheat to silence all the accusations? All i know is i asked him why he didn't use ac just a few days ago and he said "because r1ch is a liar". What does that mean? and its a very week excuse not to use anticheat.
P.S as i mentioned i did show quadz this demo, and quadz did reply saying that i tend to accuse alot of people of cheating, well all i have to say is i don't accuse everyone, just people who do look sus and i have always tried to provide demos to back up my claims. But then again i wouldn't have to post demos like this if ac was forced on everyone. Don't mean to sound smart but it's true. And for all the people that use osx or linux, they could be givin exepction, but from my experience anyone who uses linux always has windows on a partition, so maybe only use the exeption with people on osx. I also noticed that i am not the only one to accuse a2g of cheating, you have cheat detection experts like haunted and derv who also have the same opinion
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January 31, 2011, 04:59:45 PM »
Ha, quadz is pretty correct on his statement though, you have to agree....you do accuse more people of cheating than Duke at times haha....and you're wrong 95% of the time so you kinda gotta settle down on the accusations and just play...lol, I wish you played ra2 back when q2advanced was introduced.....almost ALL the servers went empty for a couple of days because 90% of ra2'ers were cheating and it took em a couple days to realize they had to turn their shit off to be able to connect as they thought it was fine to use nosepaks/rocket lines since nearly everyone did....I dunno what you woulda did
...but seriously man, simmah down a bit and spectate someone a few times and take a few demos and get somebodies opinion via IRC etc first before just throwing it out there as it kinda makes you sound whiney and I know you're a good guy...cheats are ALWAYS going to be around for q2...just learn to adapt and rape em as it really isn't hard to do in insta as long as they aren't using auto-aim...auto-aim in insta = snoozefest...but people who wallhack/use nosepaks/spikes generally are real horrible and are pretty easy to beat...so just rape em and laugh and go about your day Alpha
...fuck em all,
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January 31, 2011, 05:08:46 PM »
here's one from this mornin that I don't feel is conclusive enough. (thus my statement that I will continue to demo him)
to me it appears that he's consistently pre-aimed and waiting for people to round corners/chase him, when on multiple occasions his supposed "great sound knowledge" doesn't help him figure out theres someone spooling up the bfg 20 feet away. theres a few spots where he's aiming at the rg column thru the wall before he rounds the corner to catch people who could be jumping fuckin anywhere in that room.
one occasion he starts the bfg spoolup from 3 rooms away and charges at the two guys in there when he hadn't rounded the corner yet from the far end of the hall/outside area to tell where the heck they were, yet he puts the bfg blast between them on the wall.
it's all doable, and a lot of the time there are sound cues that could lead a player to do what he does, but I've seen him play quite a bit and it's not always like that or anywhere close. I've been able to juke him regularly and I don't move quietly or play unpredictably, so I have to wonder why some days he can't miss predictions and others I dance around him like he's a bare newb.
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January 31, 2011, 05:13:50 PM »
Quote from: |iR|Alpha on January 31, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
No botting or walling in the first demo. Frankly, it wasn't even a good game for ax2grind!
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well anyways i still reckon without a shadow of a doubt he cheats. Even with anticheat it is still possible to cheat. I was reading over some old threads from like 2006 way before my time here, and there is still a way to cheat that no anti cheat system will stop, i am not going to mention it here because stupid lame noobs will try it, but its mainly for 1 on 1 or 2's. wouldn't be much help in FFA.
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February 01, 2011, 05:01:29 AM »
Watched first demo, some nice frags but don't see walling. But, I'm no expert. I'll watch other sometime.
A2g was playing this years before me, so maybe he's had time to learn how to hide it
I will say that on 2 occasions over the last 5 years I have been fragged by him and had no clue what tipped him off.
I will also say I am very slow to accuse for wallhacks... based on my own play. I give an example.
Hax or no hax?
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February 01, 2011, 05:13:05 AM »
Ax2grind has been too afraid to play me / play in front of me ever / has held a grudge against me for the past 6 years or so. I've tried to talk with him, even just to see if he responds to 1-lined greetings but no, he is way too cool for me. Unless I'm aliasing and owning on t4, then he wants to be my best friend.
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February 01, 2011, 07:46:59 AM »
I find it odd that he's played q2 for so long and claims to be so good, yet he rarely plays a mod with in-eyes spec. Reminds me of bzx who won't play a duel with anyone else on the server.
this demo shows a bit more of what I find suspicious:
notice how he's pre-checking the spot up by the mega when he goes that way by stopping at the foot of the lift to stare up at the ceiling. he's not always looking up the shaft, and I think he's hoping to catch a glimpse of the standard dm server lift camper up top thru the lid, so he doesn't get newbed on his way up. (you won't hear the guy up there with rl bc they're usually standing completely still aiming down the hole)
he does this with a variety of corners and floor/ceiling spots, where he'll stop for a second then not aim for the spot where a person would even come from. instead he centers his view short of the corner of the wall, which I never see good players do.
you can see this prior to frag 7 pretty clearly. he stands there completely still staring at the wall above the quad pool lift, right at the guy (thru the wall) who just shot him a second before and who is now retreating. he waits till the guy is retreated all the way back to the health paks before he commits to jumping up there so he doesn't catch another rocket in the head.
there are multiple occasions where he tracks people thru the edge of a wall or floor, and if you watch frag 18 you can see him switch to rail when his rocket spam didn't flush the guy out from the little lift by rl, then pre-aim his shot right thru the wall at the guy, waiting for him to step forward into the xhair.
frag 25 looked off to me too, along with a couple others. theres one direct rocket hit by the mega that I would say could be spam aimed at the other person up by the mega at the time, but it looked more like an attempt to hit the second guy who is plainly visible with a wh, since when a2g spammed that spot before while knowing people were there, he tried to angle it towards the lift every time to get a better hit. this one was dead on the front edge of the wall instead of deeper into the little room.
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