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Science / Re: Lawrence Krauss - Theoretical Origin of the Higgs Field
Informative Informative
on October 11, 2013, 08:17:57 AM by dervish
http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/10168  <- conversation between Lawrence Krauss and an acquaintance who is a deist (but the sort who embraces science) about the Higgs field & particle... most detailed explanation-for-laymen i've heard yet
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tastyspleen.net / Re: Ratings
Jump of the Week Jump of the Week
on August 14, 2013, 02:54:30 PM by X7
Every post i make is down rated by rk / animosity... just flip through my rates, it doesn't matter what i say, he will rate it as racist ignoramus or flamebait

When the latest ratings experiment went online, I'd attempted to monitor this sort of thing, and would suspend someone's ability to impart negative and/or positive ratings, if a pattern emerged where their ratings clearly didn't match the content of the posts.

However, that level of vigilance faded pretty fast. I still tend to read the forms via: http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?action=recent

And ratings don't show at all in that mode. Thus I often miss seeing how they're being used from day to day.

Based on the recent activity in this thread, if I kept to the original policy, half a dozen folks would presumably lose their negative-rate capability for awhile.

Which leads us to:

i didn't complain to anyone and never to Ely because i really don't care. Its all fun / war games.

From the outset, my assumption has been that if the rating system didn't ultimately turn out to be particularly useful, the next best result would be if it were to somehow end up being slightly fun.

I don't know how long the experiment will last, but if we're heading into the stage where it's predominantly just goofiness, then I guess so be it. :dohdohdoh: I don't see having the time to keep close tabs on it.


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tastyspleen.net / Re: Ratings
Racist Ignoramus Racist Ignoramus
on July 30, 2013, 10:16:04 PM by haunted
Every post i make is down rated by rk / animosity... just flip through my rates, it doesn't matter what i say, he will rate it as racist ignoramus or flamebait

When the latest ratings experiment went online, I'd attempted to monitor this sort of thing, and would suspend someone's ability to impart negative and/or positive ratings, if a pattern emerged where their ratings clearly didn't match the content of the posts.

However, that level of vigilance faded pretty fast. I still tend to read the forms via: http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?action=recent

And ratings don't show at all in that mode. Thus I often miss seeing how they're being used from day to day.

Based on the recent activity in this thread, if I kept to the original policy, half a dozen folks would presumably lose their negative-rate capability for awhile.

Which leads us to:

i didn't complain to anyone and never to Ely because i really don't care. Its all fun / war games.

From the outset, my assumption has been that if the rating system didn't ultimately turn out to be particularly useful, the next best result would be if it were to somehow end up being slightly fun.

I don't know how long the experiment will last, but if we're heading into the stage where it's predominantly just goofiness, then I guess so be it. :dohdohdoh: I don't see having the time to keep close tabs on it.


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Politics / Re: The Zimmerman Trial... Possible Race Riots?
Flawless Logic Flawless Logic
on July 22, 2013, 04:02:46 PM by ppoint432
:oops:

Whether or not Ancient Egyptians were truly African of origin is up to debate, but definitely they were one of the greatest and most powerful ancient civilizations known to man and based in Africa.

Agreed; but also - if one wants to play games as in the picture above, then let's get the Chinese involved. It's about year 4710 on the Chinese calendar. Their civilization flourished during our Dark Ages, I guess because white people are dumb.

Slightly more seriously -- it seems safe to say civilization is a relatively young and fragile development in the history of our species. We've been around for something on the order of a quarter of a million years. The past 5000 years--encompassing our greatest civilizations--are a mere blip, just 2% of that timeline.

Further, we've learned through tragic cases of feral children of the drastic and apparently irreversible effects environment/upbringing can have on brain development:



It doesn't matter what race you are: If you're raised under conditions of extreme neglect, you'll be lucky to learn to speak a few words as an adult -- you won't be growing up to engineer the construction of Pyramids, Parthenons, or Great Walls.

We know the environment in which someone is raised matters a lot, and we've learned there seem to be windows of opportunity for learning during the development of a child brain that close during the progression toward adulthood.

The overarching point of this post is it doesn't matter in practice in the context of modern civilization whether there may or may not be slight bell curve differences in IQ between races. (To be clear: I don't know if any of the studies purporting to show some level of racial bias in average IQ are scientifically valid or not; I'm simply asserting their irrelevance in the context of the vast other factors affecting child development.)


If you cant see that the black culture has always been on the bottom rung of the social ladder than theirs not much more we need to talk about.

Is there still time to talk about how the myopic simplicity of the reasoning displayed in your arguments tends to once again highlight the following irony?



:nana:

The scientific method is the best tool we've yet devised for discovering facts about the natural world. If your claim is to the effect that innate genetic differences between races detrimentally affect the capability of certain races to integrate equally into modern society, then that represents a scientifically testable hypothesis about the world. An important step would be to attempt to falsify that hypothesis. One approach might be to study families of varying races grouped by equivalent socio-economic backgrounds.

For instance, collect data from numerous affluent, racially integrated neighborhoods throughout the country. Will race be a significant factor in how these upper-middle class kids from the same neighborhood perform in school? Or how many go on to college?

Collect the same data for kids of varying races raised in disadvantaged areas.

One imagines such studies have been conducted. Care to make any predictions about the outcome?

My own prediction is that race will play a minor role in comparison to socio-economic circumstances.

(BTW, no need to get hung up on the 'liberal' vs. 'conservative' tripe -- it's thankfully irrelevant to science.)


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Politics / Re: The Zimmerman Trial... Possible Race Riots?
Insightful Insightful
on July 16, 2013, 06:39:40 PM by ppoint432
<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bF-Ax5E8EJc/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bF-Ax5E8EJc"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/bF-Ax5E8EJc" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/bF-Ax5E8EJc</a>

The first 15 or 20 minutes of this video presents a lot of info (in a non-sensationalist format) about Zimmerman and Martin's respective backgrounds, a bit of which I hadn't read before.

The presenter appears to be trying to stick with just listing facts about the case, though strays into speculation or at least extrapolation-from-assumptions on a couple points (and has a bit of trouble trying to elicit meaning from some of Trayvon's phone/facebook/twitter speak.)

Caveats aside, I found the first half of the video informative. (Not as sanguine about the second half, which focuses on broader issues like corporal punishment of children, etc.)


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Science / Lawrence Krauss - Theoretical Origin of the Higgs Field
Informative Informative
on July 10, 2013, 05:18:16 PM by dervish
"A remarkable cap of a fifty year intellectual journey."

Lawrence Krauss appears briefly in the following video, in a Q&A session, giving the most clear and concise explanation I've yet heard geared at a general audience for why the Higgs field was proposed (leading to the search for the Higgs boson.)

Segment occurs from 6:10 - 14:45:

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WBBCBUe-Ngk/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WBBCBUe-Ngk"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/WBBCBUe-Ngk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/WBBCBUe-Ngk</a>


Here's a more detailed 50 minute treatment of the above, beginning with Galileo and Faraday's discoveries and building up through Maxwell, Einstein, Feynman, etc. to explain layer by layer how theory confirmed by experiment drove physicists eventually to propose the Higgs field:

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gw7v6EzJDNM/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gw7v6EzJDNM"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gw7v6EzJDNM" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/gw7v6EzJDNM</a>


Had a couple mind=blown moments during this talk (...at any given moment we're perceiving a three-dimensional slice of a 4D world, etc.)


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Science / Lawrence Krauss - Theoretical Origin of the Higgs Field
Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus! Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
on July 10, 2013, 02:39:34 PM by Reptile
"A remarkable cap of a fifty year intellectual journey."

Lawrence Krauss appears briefly in the following video, in a Q&A session, giving the most clear and concise explanation I've yet heard geared at a general audience for why the Higgs field was proposed (leading to the search for the Higgs boson.)

Segment occurs from 6:10 - 14:45:

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WBBCBUe-Ngk/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WBBCBUe-Ngk"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/WBBCBUe-Ngk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/WBBCBUe-Ngk</a>


Here's a more detailed 50 minute treatment of the above, beginning with Galileo and Faraday's discoveries and building up through Maxwell, Einstein, Feynman, etc. to explain layer by layer how theory confirmed by experiment drove physicists eventually to propose the Higgs field:

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gw7v6EzJDNM/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gw7v6EzJDNM"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gw7v6EzJDNM" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/gw7v6EzJDNM</a>


Had a couple mind=blown moments during this talk (...at any given moment we're perceiving a three-dimensional slice of a 4D world, etc.)


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Politics / Re: Oh,LOL...
Best Solution Best Solution
on June 26, 2013, 11:10:55 AM by dervish
i can partially agree with that in bold. However friendly trolling is different from malicious trolling. which seems to be more prevalent. it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. i'm more of a Counter Troll i don't particularly like bothering people unless it's justified. i may have created some bickering in the past. However i've never created a flame war just to be straight up malicious.

There's a bubble of circular reasoning here.

Didja know that your concept of what is justified isn't an absolute standard?

How much time do you spend attempting to apprehend the alternate frameworks of 'justification' employed by those who speak against you?

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Religion, and the Changing Moral Zeitgeist / Re: Ye Religion Thread
Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
on June 25, 2013, 05:40:05 AM by ppoint432
"Female genital mutilation was made illegal in Egypt in 2008 but is still very widely practiced. ... Sheikh Yussef al-Badri is one of Egypt's biggest advocates for what he refers to as female circumcision, and has petitioned the country's courts to make it legal again."

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rWebwJ0B_DM/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rWebwJ0B_DM"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/rWebwJ0B_DM" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/rWebwJ0B_DM</a>

Such a characteristic "this is your brain on religion" moment at 2:05 as al-Badri tries to deal with the reporter asking why god would design women with this inbuilt need for surgical correction...

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Politics / Re: National Security Admin - Data Collection
Best Solution Best Solution
on June 22, 2013, 03:38:21 AM by Focalor
How is this news to anyone is beyond me.  post 9-11 i thought this was a given.

Right; I've indeed presumed there has been surveillance of both domestic and foreign communications on a massive scale since 9/11.

But I pictured it operating more on the edge of legality: a real-time dragnet looking for keywords, assigning probabilities to threat signatures... this part of the system being (as I imagined it) hush-hush and not strictly legal. But if a high enough threat probability were assessed, then they'd take steps to escalate to more legal warranted surveillance.

What bothers me (and what I'd consider 'news') is if they're now saying, nah, we can legally eavesdrop on all your communications, and what's more we can store all the data for later perusal.

Because it seems to me to be one thing if they're sub-legally listening in real-time for terrorist threat signatures, and then--in critical instances--getting warrants to do proper legal surveillance which is admissible in court. But it seems a different beast altogether if they're going to say, yup we're listening and storing all your coms legally without a warrant and anything in our database may be used against you in court at any future date.

It seems to have parallels to the question of torture: it may occasionally be deemed necessary (a field worker is convinced this detainee has the codes to stop a nuclear attack), but it shouldn't be legal.

I don't want the NSA dragnet-style surveillance to be legal either, regardless of whether they're actually doing it. At least, for sure, I don't want the untargeted data they're collecting to be admissible in court.


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