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Tournament => Registration => Topic started by: Er!c@ on April 12, 2014, 05:40:34 PM

Title: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 12, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Okay, here is how it's going to work. After lots of thought and time and talking to many people. It has come to my attention that a draft will be the best way to start and stimulate this game mod a little more. Starting off small and work out way up to a potential ladder or league what have you. For right now and the player base we have, which on some nights seems to be quite a lot, isn't enough.


So if you want to play, sign up individually here, stating your in game name or simply saying I'm in! After about a week and a half of signups and spreading the word, teams will be picked, with the help of people who know the skill and player base well. (or we could do random picking if that something you people would like to try.) If not picked at random teams will be made as fair as possible so that all players have a fun and fair experience. Know that your participation will only help us get to 4v4's and so on until better things! **Let it be known that signups are going to be completely unbiased. EVERYONE can sign up, as long as the rules are followed and you behave yourselves all will be good.**

Also note that if you haven't played Ra2 in a while or at all even, that every Tuesday and Saturday night, and if you ask on IRC most nights some games will get going. But for certain games Tuesdays and Saturday nights @ 11:30PM EST games get pretty big and crazy, so join in, learn the mod, or simply brush up on your skills!


Map Pool: ra2map1, 9, 7, 20, 23, 24, 26, 27, daknye
Each team will be able to pick their map and if a tie breaker is required teams have one chance to agree upon a map, if even one person disagrees with the pick, the ref at the time is to randomly pick a map for them to play. (using a randomizer so that no one can complain of favoritism) :)


And with that, signup and keep checking back here for updates, and further information. Also to keep up to date check out the ALMOST finished website I've put together with the help of a few people @ ra2.tastyspleen.net. Thank you and we hope to see you all playing soon!



Haunted
[eL]RICK
[eL]phil
[eL]stanlyjames
[eL]blend0r
[eL]todd*
Adrenaline
CiViLiaN
[eL]Milenko
Kyper
Jehar
Er1ca
Ziel
Random
Barton
Killo
Sooint
MCS_FaderJok0
WC2
TheCleaner
187Slugs
ni-ux
[eL]Legend
Greenz
ex
2d
Yo
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: haunted on April 12, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
I'm in, tomorrow's my last day of work, and by a week and a half I'll be settled in my new place.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 12, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
I'm in, tomorrow's my last day of work, and by a week and a half I'll be settled in my new place.

Awesome! Cant wait!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 12, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
[eL]RICK
[eL]phil
[eL]stanlyjames
[eL]blend0r
and [eL]todd(he's leaving for alaska in 2-3 weeks so dunno if he's gunna get any game time)

all ready to get our SPI
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: adz1La on April 12, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
in
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: CiViLiaN on April 12, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
ME ME ME!!!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 12, 2014, 11:30:18 PM
Added everyone so far! Signups can be seen here http://ra2.tastyspleen.net/teams.html
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 13, 2014, 02:44:52 AM
[eL]milenko is in as well
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 13, 2014, 08:43:45 AM
About the webpage... In the game rules section:
- Competive mode is to be enabled for each official tourney game.
should say
-Competitive mode
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Kyper on April 13, 2014, 10:03:04 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: [BTF]Jehar on April 13, 2014, 12:59:02 PM
o/
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Targe+ on April 13, 2014, 01:52:00 PM
Ziel
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: random on April 13, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
 :bananaw00t:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 13, 2014, 03:20:54 PM
Please note that this is official IRC channel!

You can idle and join us @ irc.enterthegame.com in the channel #ra2draft

That's the best place to be for up to date information, and to see if people are getting games together, if you wanna practice or just play people are usually around somewhere!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 13, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
btw target, next time read the post, we aren't 'stacking' teams.(someone told me of your post on acme)....teams are going to be picked and it's going to be as fair as possible.  We are not going to 'stack' teams.  lot of us in eL don't want to be split up cuz we've been playing together since 07 and our play styles mesh together perfect and we know how each other play, but we have to be broke up in order to make this thing a success.  Maybe after a draft or two if there are an abundance of people back in ra2 forming clans etc, we can do a ladder with people signing their clans up.  But for the mean time, we are going to be picking teams to be as even as possible.  Dunno why you thought we are going to be stacking the teams for this.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: haunted on April 13, 2014, 03:51:24 PM
What was the original channel, mine? Who was starting stuff haha

Also, me and Stephen can take eL. #shotsfired #yolo
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: haunted on April 13, 2014, 04:14:47 PM
Oh, sorry for making you elaborate, this all sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Barton on April 13, 2014, 04:22:16 PM
Sign me up.

So in this mod you can have athena and grunt on the same team? I need to get my bright skins to work with this mod.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Targe+ on April 13, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Dunno why you thought we are going to be stacking the teams for this.

My comment was "If the teams are stacked it will be stupid and everyone will quit. Just sayin'" which can be found unmodified here --> http://www.acmectf.com/forum/index.php/topic,4037.msg59184/topicseen.html#new

I'm not jumping to conclusions, just stating the obvious.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 13, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
Oh, sorry for making you elaborate, this all sounds like fun.


no problem :)


Sign me up.

So in this mod you can have athena and grunt on the same team? I need to get my bright skins to work with this mod.


there is a skins download on the website you can color them to your liking, or you can find one and just put the skin pak in your arena folder, it needs to have ctf_b and ctf_r, r2blue and r2red colored right in female and male skins those are the ones the ra2 server uses.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 13, 2014, 04:28:06 PM
Dunno why you thought we are going to be stacking the teams for this.

My comment was "If the teams are stacked it will be stupid and everyone will quit. Just sayin'" which can be found unmodified here --> http://www.acmectf.com/forum/index.php/topic,4037.msg59184/topicseen.html#new

I'm not jumping to conclusions, just stating the obvious.


no worries, i understand your concern, which was mine cuz we see how el steam rolls through pickups weekly, which lead me to do the draft so i can slit them up a bit and even out teams.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Killo on April 13, 2014, 05:14:35 PM
sign me up
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Sooint on April 13, 2014, 05:44:34 PM
I'll play!  :headbang:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: fizzilime on April 13, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: fdrjk on April 13, 2014, 09:08:04 PM
i can and will take anyone on this forum on
just saying

sign my dumb ass up please
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: WC2 on April 13, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
In
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: animosity on April 14, 2014, 12:18:32 AM
Sign me up.  :rocketleft: :rocketleft: :rocketleft: :rocketleft: :rocketleft: :rocketleft: :rocketleft:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: The Cleaner on April 14, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Count me in.  Only if I can stack with Rick.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: 187Slugs on April 14, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
Sign me up please thanks.  :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: ni-ux on April 14, 2014, 03:12:14 PM
lol yeah ok, I'm in

better put me with good people, I bring the suck now
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 14, 2014, 03:13:33 PM
What was the original channel, mine? Who was starting stuff haha

Also, me and Stephen can take eL. #shotsfired #yolo

Name a date/time qt...the NGL champs(hops and I) are ready to rumble  :forceac:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: haunted on April 14, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
Too dang easy bro
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: hops on April 14, 2014, 05:32:37 PM
scared
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Legend on April 14, 2014, 06:03:24 PM
[eL]Legend will sign up as well.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: ex on April 14, 2014, 09:12:16 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: 2d on April 14, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
You cannot have an ra2 draft without the greatest to have ever played. Add me!

And all of you prepare to be vanquished and massacred  :biggungrin:


p.s. GTFO ex :rocketleft:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: greenz on April 14, 2014, 11:48:54 PM
 :bananaw00t: :rocketleft: :rocketright: :ubershock:

Name: greenz
Age: 23
Sex: Yes
Location: Okla

Currently entering the ra2 tournament.  :righteous:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Targe+ on April 15, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
Any interest in me casting a game (which I am specing) and uploading to Youtube? Can I even spec a game that I am not participating in?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 15, 2014, 01:23:02 PM
Any interest in me casting a game (which I am specing) and uploading to Youtube? Can I even spec a game that I am not participating in?

I don't see any issues with it as I think Jehar might be doing the same at times when he can, and the more interest we can bring to ra2/the draft, the better  :yessign:.  I don't think erica would have an issue with it either, but I'm not going to speak for her and I'm sure she'll post when she sees this. 


This also reminds me of people wanting to spec games.  I'll have to talk it over with erica/admins on exactly what we'll allow but back then if you wanted to "watch/spec" you weren't allowed to make a team and couldn't free float, otherwise there's always a possibility of someone using mumble/vent/comms to "ghost" for a friend/clan mate in the match if they are free floating in the arena being played.  We had big issues with it back then and eliminated people spec'ing all together, but I think if we can all be grown ups and not cheat, spec'ing won't be too much of an issue.  I'll message erica and discuss/post more on it later.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: adz1La on April 15, 2014, 02:09:45 PM
the team selection process is going to be amazing.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 15, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
Any interest in me casting a game (which I am specing) and uploading to Youtube? Can I even spec a game that I am not participating in?


Hey there! Speccing a game is going to be i mean sort of impossible cuz competitive mode is to be enabled and that makes it impossible to see in eyes you can free float, but thats not gonna look as good. I might want to add that demo's will be a requirement from every player during each game, so if there were specific games you wanted to see or stream you can get your hands on some demos that way?


the team selection process is going to be amazing.  :notworthy:


this is also true, thanks adren :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: y0 on April 15, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
sounds like fun, im in
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 15, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
sounds like fun, im in

We all thought you died since you haven't been around in like 10 years.  But glad you signed up, cuz I can't wait to pwn that ass fgt :D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 16, 2014, 03:02:24 PM
added to initial post but...


Map Pool: ra2map1, 9, 17, 20, 23, 24, 26, 27, daknye
Each team will be able to pick their map and if a tie breaker is required teams have one chance to agree upon a map, if even one person disagrees with the pick, the ref at the time is to randomly pick a map for them to play. (using a randomizer so that no one can complain of favoritism) :)
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Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Idioplex on April 16, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
I'm in. I'm not very good, but I'm getting better.
Besides, it was one of YOU who told me I should sign up.
So no blame on me. ^_^
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: adz1La on April 16, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
this dude plays as Idioplex?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: ex on April 16, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
Any interest in me casting a game (which I am specing) and uploading to Youtube? Can I even spec a game that I am not participating in?

I don't see any issues with it as I think Jehar might be doing the same at times when he can, and the more interest we can bring to ra2/the draft, the better  :yessign:.  I don't think erica would have an issue with it either, but I'm not going to speak for her and I'm sure she'll post when she sees this. 


This also reminds me of people wanting to spec games.  I'll have to talk it over with erica/admins on exactly what we'll allow but back then if you wanted to "watch/spec" you weren't allowed to make a team and couldn't free float, otherwise there's always a possibility of someone using mumble/vent/comms to "ghost" for a friend/clan mate in the match if they are free floating in the arena being played.  We had big issues with it back then and eliminated people spec'ing all together, but I think if we can all be grown ups and not cheat, spec'ing won't be too much of an issue.  I'll message erica and discuss/post more on it later.

TBH the cheating thing won't be an issue.  After all, the only ghosting that went on was a little bit of fun between a couple of people in this thread anyway, and they've moved past that (I think).  ;>
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: fdrjk on April 16, 2014, 09:27:35 PM
this dude plays as Idioplex?

yeah thats his main alias. hes fairly new; just something to consider when making groups
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 16, 2014, 09:55:35 PM
this dude plays as Idioplex?

yeah thats his main alias. hes fairly new; just something to consider when making groups


oh why thanks to you, oh mighty wise one for your wisdom!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: adz1La on April 16, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
ex, they won't get the chance to ghost..so... :raincloud:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: fdrjk on April 16, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 17, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
There's only 4 more days left for signups guys, so hurry and signup!  We have 28 players right now as it stands all ready to go, it would be AWESOME if we were able to get at least 2 more to signup so we would have 30 all together and could make an even 10 teams!  If anyone knows any old schoolers that used to play that would come back for this, please please please, let them know before it's too late!


Also, 2d, why are you down voting so many posts in this thread man?  I'd like to keep this thing as positive and non-trollish as possible :/
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: 2d on April 17, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Also, 2d, why are you down voting so many posts in this thread man?  I'd like to keep this thing as positive and non-trollish as possible :/

you misinterpreted the rating system.
At the moment, 7 people have down voted my posts within this thread in a derogatory manner, whether they clicked racist or otherwise. This in turn translates into a negative rating for the entire thread by showing -7 at the top lol. Just click my name and look at my received ratings and you will see who and how many people voted me down.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 18, 2014, 12:01:16 AM
Also, 2d, why are you down voting so many posts in this thread man?  I'd like to keep this thing as positive and non-trollish as possible :/

you misinterpreted the rating system.
At the moment, 7 people have down voted my posts within this thread in a derogatory manner, whether they clicked racist or otherwise. This in turn translates into a negative rating for the entire thread by showing -7 at the top lol. Just click my name and look at my received ratings and you will see who and how many people voted me down.

As soon as I clicked the -7 Rates, it showed your name next to the -7, so I did and I apologize for that.  Whoever is voting his posts down, can you please do it elsewhere?  We are trying to run a clean/fun draft here and I'd like to try to keep this thing up on the positive side.  I know these words don't look the best coming from me, but I want to see ra2 at least make one more comeback in it's life and us be able to play matches one more time before it completely dies, so if I gotta put my asshole side away for this to happen, then I will :). 

And whoever is reading this and hasn't signed up for the draft yet, please do so!  We are almost at 10 teams, so the more, the merrier!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: quadz on April 18, 2014, 12:22:16 AM
This in turn translates into a negative rating for the entire thread by showing -7 at the top

That particular 'feature' of the rating system never seemed to make a ton of sense to me. (Why should the whole topic show a negative rating just because random posts were downvoted?)

I'd attempted to turn that off once before, but it wasn't obvious how. After a frenzy of additional clicking around the control panel, the topic rates total is finally disabled.

:dohdohdoh:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 18, 2014, 01:11:00 AM
This in turn translates into a negative rating for the entire thread by showing -7 at the top

That particular 'feature' of the rating system never seemed to make a ton of sense to me. (Why should the whole topic show a negative rating just because random posts were downvoted?)

I'd attempted to turn that off once before, but it wasn't obvious how. After a frenzy of additional clicking around the control panel, the topic rates total is finally disabled.

:dohdohdoh:


Thank you, good sir! :D  :frag:  :rockon:  :yessign:  :yessign:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: M1SERY on April 18, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Sign me up
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: adz1La on April 18, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
 :raincloud:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: AlexxKrycek on April 18, 2014, 09:57:16 PM
 :yessign: I'm in. as  AlexxKrycek.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 18, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
:yessign: I'm in. as  AlexxKrycek.


awesome maybe we will see you on saturday for ra2 night? :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: AlexxKrycek on April 19, 2014, 12:20:05 AM
Unless Aliens offer me a ride in their intergalactic candy van, I should be able to make it  :evilalien:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: ex on April 19, 2014, 08:14:02 AM
This in turn translates into a negative rating for the entire thread by showing -7 at the top

That particular 'feature' of the rating system never seemed to make a ton of sense to me. (Why should the whole topic show a negative rating just because random posts were downvoted?)

To me, it makes sense.  It's like the housing market.  When one or two "undesirables" move into the area, the whole value of the neighborhood goes down.  But it's disabled now, so whatever.

ra2 tonight btw :>
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 19, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Only 2 more days left to sign up guys!  Hurry and throw your name in if you want in on the ra2 fun before it's too late!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 19, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
3*, til the 22nd :P
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: 2d on April 19, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
Someone find Ely and drag him out of his mancave
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 19, 2014, 08:09:15 PM
Ely is around just not really around here.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 20, 2014, 02:38:14 PM
Okay so, I've seen lots of comments and even been asked by many people, how teams are going to be picked. Most worried about fairness and team stacking..

The three/four admins and refs will have discussed and divided players into 3 different groups. better players, medium skilled players, and lower tiered  players. Then a randomizor would be used to create what stands at the moment 10 teams with a high tiered, med, and low tiered players.


By doing such its going to split up the el guys, make it so 3 high tiered players aren't teamed together. That was the whole point of a draft.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 20, 2014, 06:47:31 PM

So if you want to play, sign up individually here, stating your in game name or simply saying I'm in! After about a week and a half of signups and spreading the word, teams will be picked, with the help of people who know the skill and player base well. (or we could do random picking if that something you people would like to try.) If not picked at random teams will be made as fair as possible so that all players have a fun and fair experience. Know that your participation will only help us get to 4v4's and so on until better things! **Let it be known that signups are going to be completely unbiased. EVERYONE can sign up, as long as the rules are followed and you behave yourselves all will be good.**



Please guys, read the original post.  I've had countless others say the same thing over and over, and just because an eL guy is one of the admins, doesn't mean I'm stacking teams in our favor.  We don't want to be split up but until we have more people participating and we can do clan sign ups etc, eL is going to be split up.  Most of the eL guys are rated under tier 1, with like 2-3 as a tier 2, so two may end up on the same team together, but we're using a randomizer to do the picking so no one can say anything about we stacked teams.  We may intervene after the first set of matches if we feel that one team is far superior than the rest and take one of the weaker teams and do some player swapping like what was done in the ACME cup, but for the most part, we're going to make tiers, use a randomizer to make teams, and try not to touch em from there so no ONE can say we favored someones team over another or helped put a couple people together cuz we're friends with them etc.  We are going to try to make things as FAIR as possible, so please, hang onto your seats and just wait to see what happens guys.  All us admins obviously KNOW that stacked teams is going to make this thing unfun, we aren't stupid guys :P.  Lets try to have a great first draft and hope that there are MANY more to come!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 20, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
Are you gonna stack the teams?  :hmmm: :peaock:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 20, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Are you gonna stack the teams?  :hmmm: :peaock:


pro conclusion! A+ :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 20, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
Are you gonna stack the teams?  :hmmm: :peaock:

ok, I can't keep lying anymore.  I myself, solely will be making teams and all eL's I will be putting with one another and I will be making the schedules too, so that eL will NEVER have to play against each other either!  Anyone who has an issue with this, can exclude themselves from the draft, thanks! 

PS.  I was trying to just do this last second so that way it was like a curve ball and we could still hopefully have everyone still play!

PSS.  OK, this post is completely false.  Teams will be made as FAIR as POSSIBLE.  Teams will NOT be stacked, contrary to popular belief :P   
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Barton on April 20, 2014, 09:07:41 PM
Well Erica said from the beginning that the teams weren't going to be stacked, so I don't see what the whole commotion is about. I'm more interesting to know what the tournament format is; Group play, single elimination or double elimination?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: fdrjk on April 20, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
I demand that the teams be as unfair and stacked as possible.

I know I am in the minority for this position, but I refuse to budge on this complicated issue.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 20, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Right now we have i think 30 or almost 30 players. So we will have 10 teams, i suppose we could do a double elim, if people were into that, i'll have to discuss this with other admins.

The way i figured it going was teams would be made, they will be thrown into a challonge bracket, randomized to see what team plays what team, and was just gonna do single elim, first round games get a week to be played, and semis and finales would hopefully get played in a weekend .

also less stacking teams joke, try to keep the thread as informative as possible please and thank you
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 20, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
 :lolsign: I was just being a smart ass.

I'm still being a smart ass too.

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff10/groundmeat2/no_stacking_the_tee-eeeems_zpsd19b2aa0.jpg)

a challonge bracket

That sounds french. Whooo. Fancy!

30 damn people. You'da told me a couple weeks ago you could've had 30 people signed up for a league, I'da told you you were nuts. I'll tell ya what. If more people sign up and you happen to need one more to make teams even, I guess I could maybe join in, but only if it's necessary.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 20, 2014, 10:29:47 PM
Count me in. Not something to be missing for an event especially RA2. what's going on with the teams? who's going to be choosing or will their be captains?  :bravo:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 20, 2014, 10:31:25 PM
Okay so, I've seen lots of comments and even been asked by many people, how teams are going to be picked. Most worried about fairness and team stacking..

The three/four admins and refs will have discussed and divided players into 3 different groups. better players, medium skilled players, and lower tiered  players. Then a randomizor would be used to create what stands at the moment 10 teams with a high tiered, med, and low tiered players.


By doing such its going to split up the el guys, make it so 3 high tiered players aren't teamed together. That was the whole point of a draft.

Good luck with that system Lol.  :lolup: Opinions vary much round Har Lol
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 20, 2014, 10:41:00 PM

a challonge bracket

That sounds french. Whooo. Fancy!

30 damn people. You'da told me a couple weeks ago you could've had 30 people signed up for a league, I'da told you you were nuts. I'll tell ya what. If more people sign up and you happen to need one more to make teams even, I guess I could maybe join in, but only if it's necessary.


Yeah signups are done Tuesday night after games, teams will be made sometime Wednesday.


Challonge is a great bracket sight, good for events such as this.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 20, 2014, 10:41:58 PM
Okay so, I've seen lots of comments and even been asked by many people, how teams are going to be picked. Most worried about fairness and team stacking..

The three/four admins and refs will have discussed and divided players into 3 different groups. better players, medium skilled players, and lower tiered  players. Then a randomizor would be used to create what stands at the moment 10 teams with a high tiered, med, and low tiered players.


By doing such its going to split up the el guys, make it so 3 high tiered players aren't teamed together. That was the whole point of a draft.



Good luck with that system Lol.  :lolup: Opinions vary much round Har Lol




whole point is so that no one can point fingers saying we used favoritism. all random all luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: y0 on April 20, 2014, 11:04:35 PM
nevermind
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: y0 on April 21, 2014, 12:09:33 AM
nevermind, gonna withdraw from this


why? :(

nevermind
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 21, 2014, 12:29:49 AM
whole point is so that no one can point fingers saying we used favoritism. all random all luck of the draw.


It would be good to know who the 4 admins that would be deciding these brackets and tiers  :???: Sounds like the team captains are going to be doing the majority of the heavy lifting if teams are completely randomized or "Balanced"
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 21, 2014, 01:13:17 AM
whole point is so that no one can point fingers saying we used favoritism. all random all luck of the draw.


It would be good to know who the 4 admins that would be deciding these brackets and tiers  :???: Sounds like the team captains are going to be doing the majority of the heavy lifting if teams are completely randomized or "Balanced"

admin are going to be myself, Rick, and Adren, Haunted may also have input and will be a Ref for matches. It's all planned there is no need to worry about it.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: bluemeanies on April 21, 2014, 07:21:11 AM
You can put me down as an alternate to play if you have an off number of people, ie 32 instead of 33...or if people drop out...

Unfortunately, whatever team I'm on will be stacked though...
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 21, 2014, 11:43:06 AM
You can put me down as an alternate to play if you have an off number of people, ie 32 instead of 33...or if people drop out...

Unfortunately, whatever team I'm on will be stacked though...

haha will do :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 21, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
As we get closer to signups being done and teams being made, to keep yourself informed and have a place to talk over when you are gonna play games. Please join us on irc!


Irc is super easy to set up ,there are plenty of free versions out there, Kvirc, mirc, xchat(not free, ychat might be the free one)

We are on irc.enterthegame.com
Channel #ra2draft
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An admin and ref is almost always present and if we aren't, that's the best way to highlight us and for us to get back to you, easiest place to answer anymore questions or concerns you might have! If you need help on setup just let me know!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 22, 2014, 12:13:57 PM
Ra2 Draft Signups are closed tonight after games start to die down! Last chance to get in on the fun! Check us out on ETG @ #ra2draft. See you all tonight for tuesday night games!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: _c0r3 on April 22, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
I'm In!!!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 22, 2014, 11:31:14 PM
As erica has already said, we really need everyone who's participating to come and idle on IRC on ETG in #ra2draft so getting a hold of everyone is easier on us.  Getting a hold of your team and the other team and admins for matches will be MUCH easier if you all are on IRC and are able to communicate.  We would like to do as lil babysitting as possible, so just please help us out here and be easy to contact, or at least check up on the forums at least once a day to keep up with your matches/etc. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Open Now!
Post by: The Cleaner on April 23, 2014, 06:07:23 PM
Did the team consisting of Myself, h0ps, and Rick win yet?   :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 24, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
Alright everyone here are the teams! Note that because there is going to be a winners bracket and a losers bracket, Some people (by a random shuffle) get byes. Everyone will still get the same amount of play time so before you whine, learn how double elim works! With that said here is the website you can visit for all team games updated everytime someone plays, http://challonge.com/ra2draft




Team Listing: (BY NO PARTICULAR ORDER)

1 .Kyper, Greenz, TheCleaner
2. Ziel, Random, AllexxKrycek
3. _c0re, [el]Legend, Magic
4. y0, [el]Stan, Misery
5. Haunted, Sooint, 2d
6. [el]Phil, Fader, Ava
7, Adrenaline, Barton, Erica
8, Killo, Washed, CiViLiaN
9, Slugs, Jehar, Idioplex
10, [el]Rick, [el]blend0r, WC2
11. [el]Milenko, ex, Golglo
12. [el]Todd, Bluemeanies, ni-x


(http://i.imgur.com/DHIcEg9.png)



Winners bracket round 1 and 2 will HAVE to be completed between April 28th and May4th, this gives people the weekend to get some game time in, scrims and/or time to talk and prepare. Though if LB games are ready to be played, please get them going as fast as you can.


Join #ra2draft on irc.enterthegame.com to get together with other players and plan your games!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 24, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
 :bravo:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 24, 2014, 07:05:09 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, people who are signed up, come IDLE in  IRC to help organize matches etc with your team and to get an admin to come to the match easier.  EnterTheGame network in #ra2draft
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: 2d on April 24, 2014, 07:06:26 PM
R O F L !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAUNTED WAKE UP LOL WE GOT WORK TO DO :lolsign:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Kyper on April 24, 2014, 07:32:20 PM
Map Pool: ra2map1, 9, 7, 20, 23, 24, 26, 27, daknye

Just making sure, is it 7 or 17?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 24, 2014, 09:42:01 PM
Map Pool: ra2map1, 9, 7, 20, 23, 24, 26, 27, daknye

Just making sure, is it 7 or 17?

erica keeps failing!  it's 17.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Killo on April 24, 2014, 10:01:17 PM
I'd like to be removed from the draft. Thanks
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 24, 2014, 11:40:35 PM
Because of your team?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 25, 2014, 07:31:07 AM
At first glance some teams stick out (4, 5, 7) and I think Milenko has his hands full. I don't really feel qualified to comment though as I only know about 60% of the players.

:yessign: I'm in. as  AlexxKrycek.

Who are you?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Killo on April 25, 2014, 07:42:31 AM
No, I'm totally fine with my team. it's some of the other teams 'random' picks I have trouble believing, everyone talking about ghosting and cheating being an issue but off the muscle we know what teams are setup,  :LAME: , I'll pass and settle for stacked teams on regular pickup nights, I had planned on dropping when yal banned/barred animosity whatever you cryhards want to call it from the competition.  :bigcry: 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 25, 2014, 07:44:44 AM
if you really have that much of an issue with mine or rick's team, I would be up for another shuffle, I could really careless. I'm sure he would tell you the same..
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 25, 2014, 07:49:00 AM
I'm down.  Especially since WC2 said he prolly can't commit, so whoever we agree on for my 3rd is going to be an automatic stack in some eyes, regardless who it is :/
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Barton on April 25, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
Something has come up and I will be gone for two weeks. I guess that means that I will need a sub. By the way, if you need a sub for someone, kickr0 seemed interested in playing in this event, I think. Cheers.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 25, 2014, 11:13:50 AM
lets all inconvenience erica some more by complaining about how fixed the teams arent
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on April 25, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
I'll make some time to be a sub/replacement as needed. Let me know.

skill level: baddie
availability: west coast (pst) I can play in the evenings after 7pm pst, any time saturdays, and until 11:30pm sundays.
nick: [eL]OL
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 25, 2014, 12:23:03 PM
Suggestion(s) for future tourneys

Either: 

A --> Have a draft. 10 best players draft their teams starting from the worst captain until every captain picks their teams.

B --> Attempt to rank every player 1-30 (1 best, 30 worst) and then make teams with that scale. It would either be 1/11/30, 2/12/29, 3/13/28 etc.. or 1/20/21, 2/19/22, 3/18/23 etc..

Over @ Acme we use a draft and it works well (don't like your team? Blame the captain!) but it would be hard to co-ordinate with 10 captains.

My 2C anyways.

Talgo
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fizzilime on April 25, 2014, 02:23:25 PM
No offense Killo, (actually fuck it, take offense) but that is absolutely retarded.  First of all, if you had an issue with Ani being barred for his multiple explosions against the admins running the tourney (maybe get mad at ani for exploding first btw), then you should've pulled out  before the draft teams were picked.  Second, Rick says they picked teams randomly, so I believe him until otherwise.  Lastly, there are going to be better teams and worse teams.  Did you really think that randomly picking teams was going to produce 12 perfectly evenly distributed teams?  Keep in mind, we started with team signups, where people were trying to produce 2-3 super teams.  And even if they aren't fair, who the fuck cares?  Does that mean they're going to win for sure?  If you don't want to play, because you're scared about losing before a single round is played, then... good riddance.  Glad you're not on my squad.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 25, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Def appreciate it Derv, didn't realize we were going to have people drop like we did, but we'll manage :).  We could prolly def use you for sure at some point if you'd like to play.

We might try something like that next time Target, this is obviously the first one and is a huge learning curve.  We tried the tier system to try to make it as fair as possible and of course, many people said we hand picked teams.  We didn't...but whatev, hopefully we have some good games and have fun :).  We could try to add those suggestions in for the next one for sure, as they are good ideas.  Cuz I know personally am losing my shit over hearing people whine about stacked teams and Erica was just as well about to pull her hair out.  So once we play this and everyone can see how everyone is going to do on a COMPETITIVE level, not PUB play, we could possibly do captains etc.  We were just trying to make things fair(i swear, i've said this word over 800x the last week) and to make it a fun thing and have countless more.  I hope everyone who has joined has a great time and that they sign up for the next one.  And that more people come back and have fun!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: bluemeanies on April 25, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
...

These teams look pretty damn fair to me. There are a few that might have a slight advantage simply due to having players with more ra2 experience, or one individual that plays quake at a high level. However, looking at these teams closely, I can see any team winning a match set against any other team  on a given day.

There's not one team I see on the list that I feel would for sure dominate based on just the cumulative total of the individual player's skills taken in consideration with their respective ra2 experience. Also, the teams I think will do well are probably not even the ones some people might considered unbalanced.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 25, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
...

These teams look pretty damn fair to me. There are a few that might have a slight advantage simply due to having players with more ra2 experience, or one individual that plays quake at a high level. However, looking at these teams closely, I can see any team winning a match set against any other team  on a given day.

There's not one team I see on the list that I feel would for sure dominate based on just the cumulative total of the individual player's skills taken in consideration with their respective ra2 experience. Also, the teams I think will do well are probably not even the ones some people might considered unbalanced.

+950

I think people are going to be as surprised as I was with the amount of people that actually signed up for this first draft.  I didn't think we'd get 20 people but we got 35ish.  But with the different maps/playing styles/and whatever strats each team put into play, I think many teams that people are thinking are underdogs, could potentially be the better teams.  We shall see :D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: 2d on April 25, 2014, 02:51:57 PM
the purpose of this is to grow the mod and keep ra2 / quake alive and relevant. just play killo, and let ani play, theres no reason to keep him banned after hes played a couple pub matches  with a sane head. grow the mod and drop the drama
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fizzilime on April 25, 2014, 02:57:28 PM
When munther is speaking reason, you done gone fucked up killo.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 25, 2014, 03:03:37 PM
I got a PM from Rick last night asking me to sub. Already replied to the PM, but I guess I could do it here too in case other admins wanna get clued in about it quicker. Had some PC issues last night. My PSU went bad. After a VERY lengthy and annoying search which made me quite angry, I think I've found a suitable replacement PSU. But I've still got a few issues with it that could probably prevent me from playing this weekend. All should be completely resolved by Monday though. So I am still willing to sub for any team as long as no matches are scheduled until Monday.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 25, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
I got a PM from Rick last night asking me to sub. Already replied to the PM, but I guess I could do it here too in case other admins wanna get clued in about it quicker. Had some PC issues last night. My PSU went bad. After a VERY lengthy and annoying search which made me quite angry, I think I've found a suitable replacement PSU. But I've still got a few issues with it that could probably prevent me from playing this weekend. All should be completely resolved by Monday though. So I am still willing to sub for any team as long as no matches are scheduled until Monday.

Np man.  Actually, the matches can START being played starting monday(the 28th), so each team(wb1 round 1) has til the following sunday(may 4th) to get their match completed and whichever side can't field their players, gets a FF.  So if you're good to go by mon/tues, then there should be no issue at all man.  Could def use you for sure.  Hopefully you get your stuff fixed and have no other underlying issues :/.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 25, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
I got a PM from Rick last night asking me to sub. Already replied to the PM, but I guess I could do it here too in case other admins wanna get clued in about it quicker. Had some PC issues last night. My PSU went bad. After a VERY lengthy and annoying search which made me quite angry, I think I've found a suitable replacement PSU. But I've still got a few issues with it that could probably prevent me from playing this weekend. All should be completely resolved by Monday though. So I am still willing to sub for any team as long as no matches are scheduled until Monday.

Np man.  Actually, the matches can START being played starting monday(the 28th), so each team(wb1 round 1) has til the following sunday(may 4th) to get their match completed and whichever side can't field their players, gets a FF.  So if you're good to go by mon/tues, then there should be no issue at all man.  Could def use you for sure.  Hopefully you get your stuff fixed and have no other underlying issues :/.  Thanks again.

WB 1 and 2* :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: animosity on April 25, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
No offense Killo, (actually fuck it, take offense) but that is absolutely retarded.  First of all, if you had an issue with Ani being barred for his multiple explosions against the admins running the tourney (maybe get mad at ani for exploding first btw),

Phil I didn't  explode and I certainly didn't explode first. Is it so hard to believe that rick was talking shit? I mean even after all of this happened isn't he still talking shit every night? Calling people faggots, idiots, spamming loltr etc?  rick is the biggest and oldest troll in ra2. he just came back from being banned for fucking with someone too hard. hes an admitted asshole (not that that's needed) and the worst when it comes to team stacking.  Are people really surprised to think that rick would stack the teams? All the admins got solid teams while the rest just seem thrown together. Target earlier in this thread said he thought 3 teams stuck out, I agree with 2 of those teams being stacked and im sure others do to. killo gets crucified for saying it but target doesn't.  :exqueezeme:
  So much ego and unfairness and you wonder why so many people have pmmed rick as far as teams being stacked. Kudos to Killo for standing up against the "popular kids" who look down on everyone else.
  You guys love to run around saying how much work you did for everyone else but the truth is you did this tourney for you just to say you did it. Next time you try something like this maybe get the average player more involved, the guy that plays purely for the love of the game, the guy that never shit talks, the guy who more represents todays ra2 player and not you ego maniacs who love to power trip.
 Heres another idea, let the people who play vote in the admins..............

 

All that being said, I really do hope the people who play have fun and I hope this leads to some sort of 4 man team tourney in the near future.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on April 25, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
I have 2d and a ql player...
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: ex on April 25, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
I have the 1v1 champ and golgay :<
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on April 25, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
See who you're playing first?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: animosity on April 25, 2014, 10:28:11 PM
im playing el blend right now and hes a beast
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 25, 2014, 10:33:10 PM

Is it so hard to believe that rick was talking shit? I mean even after all of this happened isn't he still talking shit every night? Calling people faggots, idiots, spamming loltr etc?  rick is the biggest and oldest troll in ra2. he just came back from being banned for fucking with someone too hard. hes an admitted asshole (not that that's needed) and the worst when it comes to team stacking.  Are people really surprised to think that rick would stack the teams? All the admins got solid teams while the rest just seem thrown together. Target earlier in this thread said he thought 3 teams stuck out, I agree with 2 of those teams being stacked and im sure others do to. killo gets crucified for saying it but target doesn't.  :exqueezeme:
 
 So much ego and unfairness and you wonder why so many people have pmmed rick as far as teams being stacked.
 
 You guys love to run around saying how much work you did for everyone else but the truth is you did this tourney for you just to say you did it. Next time you try something like this maybe get the average player more involved, the guy that plays purely for the love of the game, the guy that never shit talks, the guy who more represents todays ra2 player and not you ego maniacs who love to power trip.
 Heres another idea, let the people who play vote in the admins..............



i have to agree. the teams do seem off. it's by no stretch balanced. i think the admins should be voted on by players or have captains as someone else mentioned. Or at the very least, a sliding scale of tiers seems also like a good idea. Tier 1, 2,3, and 4,  Also the tiers should be discussed by a general consensus and voted on. Then the admins can tally up their vote and add to it's legitimacy to have a balanced  final outcome to make the result more sensible. if that's too much work then, i guess it's not really for the players then now is it?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: random on April 26, 2014, 12:19:51 AM
What a fucking mess. I dont even understand why a "randomizer" was even used. With the exception of 2 or 3 players, EVERYBODY knows where everyone stands in skill level, making manual teams or necessary adjustments shouldn't be rocket science. This shit was supposed to make people have fun and grow the community, instead it generated more crybabies. just stfu and play, next time around it will be performed better.  :rockon:

(btw my team is taking it all the way. fu rick)  :yuck:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 26, 2014, 07:40:39 AM
dude nobodys even played a match yet
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: bl3nd0r on April 26, 2014, 10:38:03 AM
Personally, I don't even know 60% of the people playing so my justification of who is good or not would be a blind guess. Teams... look fine to me. There are 3 people per team with 12 teams. I think that it's fucking amazing we were able to get so many to sign up. If the teams seem lopsided to some people, deal with it. Lets just fucking play. Once this particular bracket/tournament is complete, we can randomize the teams again, start another draft and so fourth. This is only the first one of what we all hope to be many.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 26, 2014, 11:03:12 AM
Quote
animosity

rick didn't have anything to do with picking teams other than seeding players, so try again with some excuses as to why you are pussying out..my guess would be fear.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 26, 2014, 11:07:33 AM
Quote

  Also the tiers should be discussed by a general consensus and voted on. Then the admins can tally up their vote and add to it's legitimacy to have a balanced  final outcome to make the result more sensible. if that's too much work then, i guess it's not really for the players then now is it?

If you don't know how the teams were picked, you shouldn't make random assumptions as if one person made the teams/tier list. :raincloud: :raincloud:





also: if you don't like your team - it's a one time event with randomized players. Not everyone is going to like their team, get over it and play some quake, or don't, cry..whine..and see this never attempted again..your choice.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fizzilime on April 26, 2014, 11:32:12 AM
Ani, Killo is getting blasted because he dropped out of the tournament.  Last I saw, Ziel voiced his complaints but he didn't fuck over his team.  The admins created a three tier rating system based on their opinions.  Do you really think we can cookie cut all the players into three precise tiers?  This is their best idea to try and balance out the teams.  Let's run it through and if the teams are bad, we can mess with the system.  Who cares?  Nothing is at stake here guys...  Relax. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 26, 2014, 05:14:08 PM
Ani, Killo is getting blasted because he dropped out of the tournament.  Last I saw, Ziel voiced his complaints but he didn't fuck over his team.  The admins created a three tier rating system based on their opinions.  Do you really think we can cookie cut all the players into three precise tiers?  This is their best idea to try and balance out the teams.  Let's run it through and if the teams are bad, we can mess with the system.  Who cares?  Nothing is at stake here guys...  Relax.

Now, if we could only get some people to think like this, we could have a great draft! 


Admins being voted by the general players?  So, erica, adren and I are supposed to put everything together, get people signed up, trying to make as fair as teams as possible, then let other people admin?  Or you trying to say that I shoulda just made a poll and put every ra2'er down and see who voted who to the top and they made the draft?  I didn't see anyone else stepping up to do anything like this.  This is the first one, it's already bringing back in old school players who are talking about bringing back their clans etc so they can scrim again, so I'd say this was a good fucking start.  But people are going to whine regardless, especially ra2'ers :P.  And ya, things will be rethought out for the next one for sure, if there even is one. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 26, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
not to mention a polling of players would turn into a popularity/shitfest poll, it would leave no basis on actual 'rankings' so please, try again :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: VaeVictis on April 26, 2014, 10:26:10 PM
I'm actually surprised at how good the teams look

very even really

phil with fader is questionable... rick definitely has a solid team with wc2 tacked on there... and adrenaline with barton is questionable...

other than that, I don't see any issues, and I am weighing in tdm skill which might not transition directly into the brain dead spam fest that is ra2

good work on the teams i say, anyone who complains is just a bitch and doesn't understand the point of this format... do you see a mention of cash prize? I don't
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 26, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
not to mention a polling of players would turn into a popularity/shitfest poll, it would leave no basis on actual 'rankings' so please, try again :)

yes that's true. it probably would complicate things more for the admins. perhaps the tiers can remain hidden, then add the randomizer.. just a thought

also: if you don't like your team - it's a one time event with randomized players. Not everyone is going to like their team, get over it and play some quake, or don't, cry..whine..and see this never attempted again..your choice.

 Assumptions?  :raincloud: :raincloud:  I'm not complaining about my team, i'm not the type to complain about such. i'm not the guy shit talking 90 percent of the time. I'm only pointing out that other teams seem unbalanced, hence it would impact the serenity of this here "event" with further complaints as we have seen, over time matches start playing.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 26, 2014, 10:34:01 PM

phil with fader is questionable... rick definitely has a solid team with wc2 tacked on there... and adrenaline with barton is questionable...

other than that, I don't see any issues, and I am weighing in tdm skill which might not transition directly into the brain dead spam fest that is ra2

good work on the teams i say, anyone who complains is just a bitch and doesn't understand the point of this format... do you see a mention of cash prize? I don't

^^^ Shit like this is what i'm talking about, fanning the flames much? always seems to find a way to crash an event..  :raincloud: :raincloud:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 26, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/70jlw1.jpg)

felt like this was relevant
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 26, 2014, 11:37:06 PM
not to mention a polling of players would turn into a popularity/shitfest poll, it would leave no basis on actual 'rankings' so please, try again :)

yes that's true. it probably would complicate things more for the admins. perhaps the tiers can remain hidden, then add the randomizer.. just a thought


tho i have had a tad to drink, im pretty sure this is what has already been done?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Barton on April 27, 2014, 05:03:32 AM
I don't think that predetermined teams by the admins would be that much better, since the team format is uneven. Regardless, some individuals will be on a better team or a worst one, so those complaining about teams should respect the pick since they already should have know that teams were going to be selected at random.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 27, 2014, 01:22:50 PM
just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 27, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
I think the biggest problem is that there are so many "middle of the road" players. I mean the difference in skill between me (first round pick?) and 2d (third round pick?) isn't that far. There are 4-5 super good players, 4-5 super not good players (imo) and then a bunch of middle ground players.

Either way I am not complaining, I just wish I knew who my 3rd was. Other than 3 posts on the forum I have never seen him before/since.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 27, 2014, 05:07:22 PM
I'm not complaining

i'm not the type to complain

I'm only pointing out that other teams seem unbalanced,

Lemme get this straight here. You're not complaining... you're just... complaining? Ah. Okay. Yeah, I see the difference there.

BTW, I thought you vowed to stop posting or leave or whatever. But... whatever.

2 things: you seem a lot more intelligent, and your opinion matters a lot more... when you don't post your opinions and shatter the illusion of intelligence that silence affords you. ;)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 27, 2014, 06:41:59 PM
All finale revisions before tomorrow!

(http://i.imgur.com/5EhSwCe.png)

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 27, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
I'm now with golgo and ex, so you guys better not suck :)  And I guess now all eL are split up, so hopefully that makes everyone happy happy happy!  But golgo, you able to idle on irc or you prefer not to?  PM me and let me know what's the best way to get your attention so we can set up practices etc with you me and ex and go over teamplay stuff etc.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: random on April 27, 2014, 07:15:40 PM
Our team was moved from round 2 to round 1 for some reason. Might as well forfeit the match, I'm not back home yet and the 3rd member is MIA. Ziel is the only player active
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 27, 2014, 07:22:43 PM
Our team was moved from round 2 to round 1 for some reason. Might as well forfeit the match, I'm not back home yet and the 3rd member is MIA. Ziel is the only player active

things are moved because we lost a full team and 1 due to man children, so yes things moved, if you cant get together in a week you go to lb so you have another week to get games going, please learn how wb and lb works.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: quadz on April 27, 2014, 07:48:34 PM
I'm not back home yet and the 3rd member is MIA. Ziel is the only player active

For what it's worth, AlexxKrycek (*.fuse.net) appears to have never connected to a Q2 server within the WallFly network. And they haven't logged back into the forums since the initial 24-hour period when they made their three posts.

( The alias sounded vaguely familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Krycek )

So, I don't know if this is someone legit who just has never played Q2 on a WallFly server (and who stopped checking forums after his initial posts), or if possibly someone trolling who never intended to play.

(Their join-reason on the forum was, "I want more life, fkr!", which sounded vaguely like something a certain banned member might say when registering; however it may just be the name of a song (http://midnighttosix.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/the-fleeting-joys-despondent-trasponder-only-forever-recordings/).)


:shrug:

:exqueezeme:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 27, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
I think Rick said I was on a team with bluemeanies and someone else, but I see some niux and todd dudes on the bracket thingymajigger. Does this mean I ain't gotta sub after all? That would be most advantageous to whoever got stuck with me, hehe. I ain't played RA2 except in a 1on1 thing the one single time I hopped on there late late at night once. So I really don't have much of a clue how the mod works, nor do I really have the interest to learn it. Pretty much, whoever gets my ass is just gonna get a warm body behind a computer that's probably just gonna ruin their chances to win. It behoove whoever it is to find someone more suitable. Just so there's no complaints that I was counterproductive to anyone's team, you've been warned. ;) (Not that warning anyone would prevent complaints)

But I'll still hold up my word and play if I gotta. And I'll try not to suck too bad when I do. I'm pretty middle of the road with a railgun normally, decent with rockets (against most people on the FFA servers, mind you, 1on1 situations with better players who are less predictable and it don't work so well), and pretty accurate with chaingun. But that's "normally". And "normally" my ping was around 33ms. These days I get routed through a bad server in Atlanta that jacks my shit up to 80-90ms, and my accuracy suffers for it. Something to keep in mind in case my teammates might know of a more suitable substitute than me.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on April 27, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
I heard ni-ux isn't going to make it.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 27, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
/me SLAMS HEAD INTO DESK MULTIPLE TIMES


you're all a buncha babies.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 27, 2014, 09:08:22 PM
fleeting joys suck
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: greenz on April 27, 2014, 09:50:04 PM
Since this draft is going no where... lets just do the winning results... greenz cleaner kyper vs. haunted sooint 2dum  

 :fight:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 27, 2014, 10:09:32 PM
predictions thread coming soon..
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 27, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
I'm not back home yet and the 3rd member is MIA. Ziel is the only player active

For what it's worth, AlexxKrycek (*.fuse.net) appears to have never connected to a Q2 server within the WallFly network. And they haven't logged back into the forums since the initial 24-hour period when they made their three posts.

( The alias sounded vaguely familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Krycek )

So, I don't know if this is someone legit who just has never played Q2 on a WallFly server (and who stopped checking forums after his initial posts), or if possibly someone trolling who never intended to play.

(Their join-reason on the forum was, "I want more life, fkr!", which sounded vaguely like something a certain banned member might say when registering; however it may just be the name of a song (http://midnighttosix.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/the-fleeting-joys-despondent-trasponder-only-forever-recordings/).)


:shrug:

:exqueezeme:

Figures.  And now he isn't answering my PM's, so, sigh.  Dunno why people sign up for stuff then just go completely MIA haha.  Oh well, we will persevere.


I think Rick said I was on a team with bluemeanies and someone else, but I see some niux and todd dudes on the bracket thingymajigger. Does this mean I ain't gotta sub after all? That would be most advantageous to whoever got stuck with me, hehe. I ain't played RA2 except in a 1on1 thing the one single time I hopped on there late late at night once. So I really don't have much of a clue how the mod works, nor do I really have the interest to learn it. Pretty much, whoever gets my ass is just gonna get a warm body behind a computer that's probably just gonna ruin their chances to win. It behoove whoever it is to find someone more suitable. Just so there's no complaints that I was counterproductive to anyone's team, you've been warned. ;) (Not that warning anyone would prevent complaints)

But I'll still hold up my word and play if I gotta. And I'll try not to suck too bad when I do. I'm pretty middle of the road with a railgun normally, decent with rockets (against most people on the FFA servers, mind you, 1on1 situations with better players who are less predictable and it don't work so well), and pretty accurate with chaingun. But that's "normally". And "normally" my ping was around 33ms. These days I get routed through a bad server in Atlanta that jacks my shit up to 80-90ms, and my accuracy suffers for it. Something to keep in mind in case my teammates might know of a more suitable substitute than me.

It's all good, and nah, I was originally wanting to put you with todd(hops) and bluemeanies all along because I had a feeling ni-ux wasn't going to be able to play, and we got confirmation that he had a death in the family and is going to be away awhile, so with hops being as good as he is and bluemeanies being a very solid player, you not being the greatest, is actually perfect for that team so it isn't so over-powered :D.  So no worries man, things should be just fine.  And hops leaves for alaska on may 8th for work, so I think you'd be playing either one or two matches at the most.  The bracket was moved around since random isn't available this week, so you guys have a round 1 match now instead of a bye.  If you can at all, try to get on irc in #ra2draft when you can bud so you can talk to hops bout a good time for you guys/the other team etc.  He said he didn't know how to get a hold of you, I told him I'd talk to ya. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 27, 2014, 10:12:36 PM
predictions thread coming soon..

That could be pretty cool actually, would give people something to go talk about etc, instead of focusing on the drama mainly :P.  Also, phil said he can live stream some matches if jehar isn't around, just stream, not shoutcast as long as both teams are ok with it, so most matches could hopefully be streamed which will be pretty cool.  Takes care of the whole 'no specs allowed' thing, since phil is a co-admin anyway, he can be trusted and is in good standing with most of everyone in the community and everyone loves him, so there shouldn't be any issues.  Again, both teams would have to agree first on it anyway, so there's no bs :P
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 27, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
And one last post before I hit the hay, everyone check http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft (http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft)  , it's been updated slightly since random isn't going to be available this week for a match, his team was switch with hops/bluemeanies/focolars team so that they get a bye for this week.  Also, c0re's team is now up against blend0r's.

Also, please guys, if you aren't on irc already, please just start getting on even if it's for a few hours.  If you need a link for a free version, I can PM you the link.  It will make it MUCH easier for your team and the other team to get together and to find an admin for your match! 


And at this point, matches are now LIVE!  (I'm posting this at 1am on Monday) so matches can start to be played guys!  Get with your team/the other team and get em goin!  And now that matches are now live, there are not going to be anymore changes made to the draft in anyway.  If someone is going to be out of town for awhile, we might not be able to find a sub at this point so you may receive a FF.  We're trying to do what we can to keep this thing movin on forward, but you guys signed up for this thing, PLEASE show some respect and hold up YOUR end PLEASE.  We put a lot of time into this and have received a lot of headaches throughout it, so please make this thing be seen to the end and go smoothly so we can do more.  The next one will be done much differently than this one was because if we go through what we did this draft for the next one, I can promise you there won't be anymore and the 2nd one could be dropped.  I'd like to thank Erica for being able to put the drama aside and still see this thing through, even though people have bashed her pretty hard, she is still here trying to do something great for the community AND ra2!  So hopefully everyone else appreciates her as much as I do for making this all possible!  And I can't wait to see some of these matches on stream :D  RA2 matches in 2014!  haha, never thought I'd see the day.  But done with the novel, lets get this thing rollin and lets not stop it :D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: 2d on April 28, 2014, 12:21:10 AM
So hopefully everyone else appreciates her as much as I do for making this all possible! 

Quadz, i need a statue.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 28, 2014, 04:42:09 AM
2d is hodor
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 28, 2014, 07:26:10 AM
And one last post before I hit the hay, everyone check http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft (http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft)  , it's been updated slightly since random isn't going to be available this week for a match, his team was switch with hops/bluemeanies/focolars team so that they get a bye for this week. 

Should I look for a 3rd for my team, or would that be unfair? If unfair, can one be sought out on my behalf?

Thanks
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on April 28, 2014, 08:45:59 AM
excuse me admins, my team is stacked.  ;D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 28, 2014, 08:58:04 AM
This shit was supposed to make people have fun and grow the community, instead it generated more crybabies. just stfu and play, next time around it will be performed better.  :rockon:
(btw my team is taking it all the way. fu rick)  :yuck:
:shifteyes:

What a fucking mess. I dont even understand why a "randomizer" was even used. With the exception of 2 or 3 players, EVERYBODY knows where everyone stands in skill level, making manual teams or necessary adjustments shouldn't be rocket science.

taking into consideration the above ^^  Hold the phone, Not too sure about that there guy. i'm sure many people have different opinions of who is "more skilled" than who in a specific mod, or generally.  :shifteyes: However i'm confident our current  team will be able to take top spot or top 3, considering Ex doesn't go afk for half the match Lol. :rocketright:


https://www.youtube.com/v/KTc3PsW5ghQ
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 28, 2014, 09:15:13 AM
Oh yea, So, Since surprisingly enough nobody asked about the big elephant in the room and it has slipped my mind from being at work all week. is everyone going to record demos or not? this isn't a edge duel thing but i think i'll just record anyways if there is a place to upload in this thread or that site. so there are no disputes  :???:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 28, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Hops PM'd me wanting me to get with him somehow to discuss things. So if him or bluemeanies reads this, I'm not gonna be around during the day today, but I'll try to drop into the IRC channels tonight.

(http://focalor.tastyspleen.net/forumpics/ra2_smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 28, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
i just noticed on QSB there is a NY rocket arena server hosted by none other than wallfly.  it would probably be advantageous for a home/away setup, since most regular players are west here and most of the acme new signups are somewhat eastern.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 28, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
Oh yea, So, Since surprisingly enough nobody asked about the big elephant in the room and it has slipped my mind from being at work all week. is everyone going to record demos or not? this isn't a edge duel thing but i think i'll just record anyways if there is a place to upload in this thread or that site. so there are no disputes  :???:


if you read the site rules youd see that demos are required.



- Team size will be 3’s (atleast for the first go around)
- Games with be Bo3 and the final games will be Bo5
- Competive mode
- Rounds should be set to 9, armor damage on and falling damage on.
- An admin has to be present for games.
- A demo of each game is required, and are to be ready if asked to send them. (admins present should take screenshots of each match. (Reason: anticheat won't be forced on servers, due to its stopped development for new clients and operating systems.)
- Failure to provide demos upon request will result in an automatic FF.
- Map List is still to be determined, should be posted in a few days.
- Games should be played in a timely manner, and be fair for both teams.
- Server will be tx based as it is a central point for the US.
- Mumble is not required for games, but is encouraged as it is good for communication.


So yes they are required, id recommend sending demos to this email tastyra2demos@gmail.com



i just noticed on QSB there is a NY rocket arena server hosted by none other than wallfly.  it would probably be advantageous for a home/away setup, since most regular players are west here and most of the acme new signups are somewhat eastern.



And no we will stick to the central point server. Thanks tho.

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 28, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
So how long did it take you to set up a ra2 server ?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: quadz on April 28, 2014, 02:01:21 PM
Quadz, i need a statue.

(http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/wtf-funny-statue-kid-butt.jpg)

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on April 28, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
Imo, targe's assessment was the most i'd agree with concerning 3v3 and the pool of players signed up.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 28, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
And one last post before I hit the hay, everyone check http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft (http://www.challonge.com/ra2draft)  , it's been updated slightly since random isn't going to be available this week for a match, his team was switch with hops/bluemeanies/focolars team so that they get a bye for this week. 

Should I look for a 3rd for my team, or would that be unfair? If unfair, can one be sought out on my behalf?

Thanks

We will try to find a suitable replacement for you, but if you know of someone who wants to play, let me know so I can discuss it with the other admins.  Alex wasn't going to be that good, and was you're lowest tier player so we'd have to find someone similar to replace him without obviously stacking your team.  We may just have to throw vamp on your team  :evilgrin: jkk, get with me asap and let me know if you have someone in mind before we can find you a replacement.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 28, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Also to add to my post since I can't edit my own posts (quadz raped me), I did try PM'in Alex here on the forums a few days ago and haven't heard anything back.  So it's prolly safe to say without a doubt he won't return for the draft for sure. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 28, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
(Their join-reason on the forum was, "I want more life, fkr!", which sounded vaguely like something a certain banned member might say when registering; however it may just be the name of a song (http://midnighttosix.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/the-fleeting-joys-despondent-trasponder-only-forever-recordings/).)

A "certain" banned member... I see no reason to protect the suspected identity of someone who wants to pull dick moves by verbally committing to play and then never playing.

And I'd suggest it's not the name of a song. It's a quote from the movie Bladerunner. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbAgwdBaTI) Bladerunner quotes (seems like someone was posting shit off the Bladerunner soundtrack around here not long ago)... a page mentioning My Bloody Valentine (seems like someone around here is a fan of their horrible music)... See where I'm going with this?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 28, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
(Their join-reason on the forum was, "I want more life, fkr!", which sounded vaguely like something a certain banned member might say when registering; however it may just be the name of a song (http://midnighttosix.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/the-fleeting-joys-despondent-trasponder-only-forever-recordings/).)

A "certain" banned member... I see no reason to protect the suspected identity of someone who wants to pull dick moves by verbally committing to play and then never playing.


+840

Since he has went MIA and is making us scramble to find a decent replacement and isn't answering my PM's, I'd almost like to know :D.  Wish he woulda stuck it out or I almost wonder if he just signed up to mess with the draft.  Who knows til we know who it is I guess :P
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 28, 2014, 06:13:37 PM
 :offtopic:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 28, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
:offtopic:

Not a denial. :bravo:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 28, 2014, 07:13:02 PM
but seriously, good move by erica to have all the games be in tx

yall'd be in trouble if i played this thing with a 16 ping  :evilking:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: quadz on April 28, 2014, 08:02:42 PM
A "certain" banned member... I see no reason to protect the suspected identity of someone who wants to pull dick moves by verbally committing to play and then never playing.

It wasn't for identity protection of the banned person, just avoiding giving them attention if they're looking for it.

As it stands I have nothing concrete to go on (the IP wasn't in any public proxy lists I could find, etc.)

So I simply don't know who it was.

:?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 28, 2014, 08:20:52 PM
I kind of expected some people to just up and drop off the face of the Earth when it came time to actually play. People pull that kind of shit all the time, especially in all the Euro leagues.

Playing in leagues and drafts is a small commitment. I guess some people don't realize that you need to be present and available and just sign up because they think they're helping the community by being a part of something. Here in realityland, you're hurting it by inconveniencing both the admins and the players by not showing any interest when it actually starts, or just not showing up altogether.

When you sign up, actually fucking follow what's happening.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on April 28, 2014, 08:34:07 PM
Easy killer. Meow.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: |iR|Focalor on April 28, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
It wasn't for identity protection of the banned person, just avoiding giving them attention if they're looking for it.

Bumblebee tuna! Yep, I get ya. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 28, 2014, 09:23:20 PM

We will try to find a suitable replacement for you, but if you know of someone who wants to play, let me know so I can discuss it with the other admins. 

Reefer said he would play on my team. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 28, 2014, 09:32:43 PM
So how long did it take you to set up a ra2 server ?

who are you referring to?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: random on April 28, 2014, 10:16:53 PM

We will try to find a suitable replacement for you, but if you know of someone who wants to play, let me know so I can discuss it with the other admins. 

Reefer said he would play on my team.

 :bananaw00t: :beer:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 29, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
I can't play with this ping. I only have today and tomorrow off and maybe Thursday.  I need to do a traceroute but east servers play fine as I just played someone.


C:\Users tracert 67.228.69.114

Tracing route to tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  xxx.xxx.xx.x
  2    28 ms    28 ms    28 ms  10.32.147.1
  3    29 ms    31 ms    31 ms  P0-2-3-0.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4
5.20]
  4    38 ms    29 ms    32 ms  ae4-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.163
.224]
  5    29 ms    29 ms    28 ms  0.xe-10-1-0.BR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.225]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7   110 ms   112 ms   114 ms  vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.222]
  8   112 ms   111 ms   110 ms  ae-47-47.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.201.45]

  9   114 ms   113 ms   113 ms  ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.70]

 10   156 ms   116 ms   113 ms  ae-2-70.edge3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.155.81]

 11   117 ms   119 ms   122 ms  te2-5.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com [4.26.34
.22]
 12   150 ms   130 ms   131 ms  ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.132]
 13   155 ms   155 ms   155 ms  ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com [173.192.
18.136]
 14   152 ms   150 ms   151 ms  ae0.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.253]
 15   153 ms   152 ms   151 ms  po2.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.11
8.190]
 16   154 ms   155 ms   156 ms  tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]

Trace complete.


Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 29, 2014, 04:49:54 PM
I can't play with this ping. I only have today and tomorrow off and maybe Thursday.  I need to do a traceroute but east servers play fine as I just played someone.


C:\Users tracert 67.228.69.114

Tracing route to tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  xxx.xxx.xx.x
  2    28 ms    28 ms    28 ms  10.32.147.1
  3    29 ms    31 ms    31 ms  P0-2-3-0.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4
5.20]
  4    38 ms    29 ms    32 ms  ae4-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.163
.224]
  5    29 ms    29 ms    28 ms  0.xe-10-1-0.BR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.225]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7   110 ms   112 ms   114 ms  vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.222]
  8   112 ms   111 ms   110 ms  ae-47-47.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.201.45]

  9   114 ms   113 ms   113 ms  ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.70]

 10   156 ms   116 ms   113 ms  ae-2-70.edge3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.155.81]

 11   117 ms   119 ms   122 ms  te2-5.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com [4.26.34
.22]
 12   150 ms   130 ms   131 ms  ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.132]
 13   155 ms   155 ms   155 ms  ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com [173.192.
18.136]
 14   152 ms   150 ms   151 ms  ae0.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.253]
 15   153 ms   152 ms   151 ms  po2.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.11
8.190]
 16   154 ms   155 ms   156 ms  tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]

Trace complete.





I hope you can resolve your problems before then. Sorry to hear.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: _c0r3 on April 29, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Magic and Legend, we should get a scrim or 2 in before we start playing matches no? Anyway i've been idling on #ra2 and #ra2draft so get on one of these nights so we can get together and discuss and scrim.

And a question for the admin, is there going to be a vent server or whatever for use during these matches? THX
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: quadz on April 29, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
And a question for the admin, is there going to be a vent server or whatever for use during these matches? THX

We do have a TeamSpeak 3 server running at: teamspeak.tastyspleen.net

Anyone is welcome to use that for these matches.

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 29, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
And a question for the admin, is there going to be a vent server or whatever for use during these matches? THX

We do have a TeamSpeak 3 server running at: teamspeak.tastyspleen.net

Anyone is welcome to use that for these matches.



Appreciate it quadz! 

Yea the option I was working on never got back to me.  I was trying to get admin for a private mumble but the guy has gone MIA.  So, I know we'll hear some grumbles from some people not wanting to download another chat client, but quadz is gracious enough to let us use his TS3 server, and we sure could use it so go get it you guys :)  http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 29, 2014, 08:51:07 PM

We will try to find a suitable replacement for you, but if you know of someone who wants to play, let me know so I can discuss it with the other admins. 

Reefer said he would play on my team.

After discussing it, we found someone we think who is more around alex's level, but is prolly a bit better.  -Legacy- from the railwarz community said he'd play.  We were going to OK Reefer, but after thinking it over, it woulda made your team way too strong, considering Reefer has played ra2 before(alex hasn't played in over 10 years, or so he said...and Legacy hasn't played but a couple maps, so they'd equate out better).  I'm sure we could still use Reefer at some point as a sub if he wants to get in on some ra2 action.  I could throw him down as a sub if he's down. 

And hopefully from this point further, we won't have anymore issues with people dropping and every match on the bracket gets played and none get FF'd etc.  Have til Sunday to get the round 1 and 2 games in, so lets get rollin guys!  Get on IRC, get a hold of your teammates and get these matches played and have some fun :D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 29, 2014, 09:26:37 PM
considering Reefer has played ra2 before(alex hasn't played in over 10 years, or so he said).

To be fair, a lot of 3rd round picks have played ra2 before, and Alex was a hoax. But whatever, idc. Do you have any means so that I can get ahold of Legacy? I have never seen him on these forums.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: random on April 29, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
I dont mind having either player on our team. However, can you elaborate on how Alex's skill level was determined by the admins considering he has NEVER connected to a Wallfly server? (fact based off of Quadz reply).
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on April 29, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
However, blah blah dumb passive aggressive bullshit question?

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on April 29, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
considering Reefer has played ra2 before(alex hasn't played in over 10 years, or so he said).

To be fair, a lot of 3rd round picks have played ra2 before, and Alex was a hoax. But whatever, idc. Do you have any means so that I can get ahold of Legacy? I have never seen him on these forums.

IRC where people can get ahold of almost all players. ETG #ra2draft
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 29, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
I dont mind having either player on our team. However, can you elaborate on how Alex's skill level was determined by the admins considering he has NEVER connected to a Wallfly server? (fact based off of Quadz reply).

He was obviously going to be one of the weakest players on the bracket.  I had many talks with him on how he hasn't played in over 10 years, that he was going to be pretty bad etc.  So we took his word for it and the 'more the merrier' jingle played, and he was in.  You now have a solid team imo and could be possibly the best if legacy can learn the maps quick enough, as you and target are pretty good in ra2.  Anymore questions homo?  (gl vs us btwww, randumb :) )
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 29, 2014, 11:26:17 PM
angry text @ admins because they didn't exclude some random player  :raincloud:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on April 30, 2014, 01:43:38 AM
e. This shit was supposed to make people have fun and grow the community, instead it generated more crybabies. just stfu and play, next time around it will be performed better.  :rockon:



yea if you wrote this, I don't see how your new teammate would make a lick of difference. not to mention leaving the event.. :???:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: random on April 30, 2014, 02:59:24 AM
who the fuk are you? and wtf are u talking about?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 30, 2014, 06:10:20 AM
IRC where people can get ahold of almost all players. ETG #ra2draft

I tried to connect to ETG through two different IRC clients the other night before giving up in frustration. I didn't realize others were having the same issues and I have not had time to try the suggestions in the chat box. I will try tonight after work. Has Legacy been idling there?

Legacy hasn't played but a couple maps, so they'd equate out better

I have never captained a RA2 team, and other than a handful of maps that I played with [s0] a few years back, I haven't played RA2 competitively. So why was it put up to me to train a new player, when I am not even familiar myself? There are other captains that are more skilled and more qualified.

I thought I was looking for a 3rd pick player, which I think Reefer would be (falling in line with The Cleaner, Civilian and 2D). I thought the only reason I had Alexx on my team was bad luck of the draw with the "randomizer". This seems inconsistent.

However, blah blah dumb passive aggressive bullshit question?

angry text @ admins because they didn't exclude some random player  :raincloud:

It's these kinds of comments that make me wish I hadn't signed up for this draft.

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on April 30, 2014, 08:42:48 AM
What's so bad about mocking someone who's questioning the seeding process for no useful purpose other than to be a pain?

Who actually needed this answered for them?

question: How did you seed this guy having never seen him play?

answer: They seeded him as low tier, because they took him at his word that he was, exactly like they believed the 5-6 other people who said they'd play and now won't.


Apparently that's tough to understand for some.

Admins make mistakes just like any other people.
The mistake was believing that a bunch of adults might actually act like adults and do what they said they'd do and not bitch and cry like children or wimp out the second they saw the teams.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: 2d on April 30, 2014, 01:01:12 PM
lmao @ u thinking im a 3rd tier
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on April 30, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
I really don't think Target or even Golgo are trying to knock the event for what it is. If people have a problem with their place, or even the event in general, they shouldn't be afraid of getting flamed for voicing what they think about it, even if it's negative. Especially if it wasn't their intent to try to take anything away from all the effort all of the admins, or even the other players effort put into it, which I don't think was anyone's intent in the first place.
I don't know, I just have a serious problem with that. Pretty much all of the drama that came from this event hasn't been constructive in the slightest, so I'd like to see it settled. It's gay.

You all should be able to say what's on your mind without being misunderstood (or come off like you're trying to insult someone).

I tried to connect to ETG through two different IRC clients the other night before giving up in frustration. I didn't realize others were having the same issues and I have not had time to try the suggestions in the chat box.

Try /server 8.225.195.155:6667, it's always worked for me.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 30, 2014, 01:36:35 PM
lmao @ u thinking im a 3rd tier

Maybe I completely understood how teams were setup, but it seems to me that you were put as the 3rd pick on your team. I personally don't think you are 3rd tier as you have out pointed me on many maps. I assumed the first person on each team was 1st pick, second 2nd, third 3rd. Correct me if I am wrong.

You all should be able to say what's on your mind without being misunderstood (or come off like you're trying to insult someone).

Nail --> Head. Thanks! I will try your/Erica's IRC suggestions tonight when I get home.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on April 30, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
Target, I've been I think pretty nice to you considering how well we get along and have answered your questions without trying to be a dick or anything of the sort like I normally have done in the past.  We had to replace your MIA guy with someone around his same skill set, otherwise if we said OK to Reefer(who is prolly 10x the player Alex woulda been), it wouldn't have been a fair trade off and we could get accused YET again of stacking teams.  I mean, look who I got put with at the end of this thing...anyone on TS knows me and golgo's history together, and I haven't complained ONE bit about being on his team or anything of the sort.  I want to move past our old crap and just have fun.  This draft obviously wasn't the best, but it got things rolling and that's what we were after mainly. 

And to answer your one post, it's not fair for you to have to train someone, but Legacy I'm sure is going to do just fine for you.  And we didn't turn anyone down who wanted to join, we have a couple newer players join etc.  I mean phil/fader have ava who has played but 3-4 maps of ra2? just like Legacy, so they are in the same boat.  Just please get through this one and I promise the next one will be better.  We've learned a great deal from this and the headaches it's brought. 

Also, there were a few people that had to be moved around on the tier list to make for even teams.  Some 2's got knocked down to 3 or up to 1, it wasn't the best system, but it was the easiest for the time being and the fastest to get things rolling.  A 3-tier system I doubt will ever be used again.  So don't take offense to things and don't act like we thought less of you or anything.  We were trying to be as FAIR as possible and make as even as teams as possible. 
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on April 30, 2014, 05:27:12 PM
The fairest option possible is fully randomized teams and yet half of the players would drop out the second you posted them.

fancy that.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on April 30, 2014, 06:50:19 PM
Target, I've been I think pretty nice to you considering how well we get along and have answered your questions without trying to be a dick or anything of the sort like I normally have done in the past.    I want to move past our old crap and just have fun. 

Noticed an appreciated. I agree with what Fadar said in my regards above --> I am not trying to attack anyone, I am just trying to get answers to some questions. I feel as the first pick that makes me a captain (of sorts) and I should have some right to ask questions about my team with harassment. I feel that I too have been civl in this regards.

I am a bit frustrated as I see myself as one of the worst captains and I am given a new player as a 3rd. I mean, with the randomized teams, sure, I had shitty luck of the draw. But I figured since we were replacing a player, why not give me a decent one.

Either way, I don't know which maps are which number so I will just have to rely heavily on random to sort the matches out for us. I will try to get on ETG and speak to Legacy.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: VaeVictis on April 30, 2014, 06:52:30 PM
lmao @ u thinking im a 3rd tier

wasn't enough people for a 4th, so you got promoted  :beer:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on April 30, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
You aren't a captain, you are the teams 1 tier player.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on May 01, 2014, 09:18:53 AM
I'm dropping out. Sorry to all for any inconvenience, especially to Sooint. GL HF to all.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Barton on May 01, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
You can add at me as a sub. I'll be able to play again next week.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on May 01, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
You can add at me as a sub. I'll be able to play again next week.

Good stuff Barton...there's prolly going to be a good chance that we will need you at some point as a sub or possibly a full time player with the way people are dropping etc :P  But ya, a dependable sub is something we'd like to have so thanks bud :)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: hops on May 02, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
So it's now 2d sooint and kickro, looking to play Friday night (like originally planned) around 1030-11pm EST, 2d and I already kinda agreed on that hope kickro can make it, because I have to have a 2nd game played by Sunday which will be the day I'll play that one. I'll check here and irc when I get home tomorrow and try to pan some details out before I leave, got stuff planned which I'll have to cut short to come play later Friday night (so dedicated zomg).

p.s this is the last night to play this match, so better be there  :lolsign:
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on May 02, 2014, 01:10:10 PM
If barton is gonna be around, he can have his spot back.

I'm not the same tier so it's in the team's best interest that he takes his original spot if he's gonna play in this.
We have yet to have a match scheduled due to 1 player on each team not being around, while I've been around every damned day idling on 2 computers.

Don't think we're gonna get one played till next week at this rate.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on May 02, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
Me and phil are fine to play some time this weekend, by the way. Just posting this here so that Derv, adren, and Erica would be more likely to see it eventually.

PM us on IRC!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: adz1La on May 02, 2014, 06:34:41 PM
I've been told 9est Sunday..accurate?
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: fdrjk on May 02, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
yes

(redundant clarification for everyone to see)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Whirlingdervish on May 02, 2014, 09:33:59 PM
I'll be there.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 04, 2014, 01:25:11 AM
was watching 2D's POV. factoring in the time it takes to send a typed message, by the time your teammate takes his focus off to read it, the whole sychronicity is off. just a thought. mumble is free and team speak might be too.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Targe+ on May 06, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
Kyper --> When did you want to play? I am free most nights at most times with some notice. My 3rd is MIA so if you have 3 I might need a sub.

Reefer, a CTF player, said he could sub. Both Greenz & Cleaner are CTF players, so they will both know him and can comment as to his skill level (and whether they believe it's a fair sub). Otherwise, I can look for another. I would prefer to play 3v3 if you have 3 players (as it wouldn't be fair to make one of your players sit).

I idle all the time on IRC but don't read up much, so just send me a PM and I will read it when I get home.

Ziel
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 07, 2014, 06:39:52 AM
Ok, Well it seems i won't be available Fri - Tuesday 5/9 - 5/13. i have work scheduled for those 5 days supposedly (If it's not canceled before then) So, Unless it is, As of now i will be only available today & possibly tomorrow (thurs) 5/7 - 5/8 to play matches. Also (Possibly) After work at 1am - 3am EST those nights (If i'm not tired already) i will attempt to show up in IRC if i can. (Fri or weekend 5/16 - 5/18, was supposed to be the designated nights for the match, according to the other 2 members consensus)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: ex on May 08, 2014, 07:52:06 AM
I could play today because I'm home from work sick as a dog.  Let me know.  IRC would be best.  I'll check here too.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on May 08, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
ok, i talked to bl3nd0r who is taking over hops position in the draft and he said he won't be back around til monday/tues next week so we're going to have to prolly postpone our match til early next week(it's round 3 so we have some time to get the match in)...just wanted to update you ex/golgo.  I work mon-sat so I'd prefer to play our matches on sunday but I get home at 7pm normally and after I shower/do what I need to do when I get home, I could play around 9-10pm est mon-sat np
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on May 12, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
Gotta keep the games moving people if you dont show up you are just holding team and players back! be sure to idle in our IRC channel #ra2draft so you can get together with your teammates and members of the the other team!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on May 12, 2014, 09:46:02 PM
me/golgo/ex/Barton/bl3nd are all CONFIRMED ready to play our 3rd round match on Wednesday at 9-10ish est pm(prolly more towards 10), and only person I haven't confirmed with yet is bluemeanies...so hopefully he either gets my irc message or sees this(i'll also PM him on the forums to triple bug him :) )...but see ya guys wednesday :D
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: bluemeanies on May 13, 2014, 08:34:51 AM
We're good...see you all on pubs tonight!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on May 13, 2014, 07:41:43 PM
We're good...see you all on pubs tonight!


Good stuff!  So all 6, ex/golgo/me/Barton/bluemeanies and bl3nd0r are all confirmed for tomorrow at 10pm est.  Cya guys tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 14, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Sorry to say, Looks i got called for overtime work, Got stuck with the night shift. won't be able to make it tonight as scheduled.  will have to schedule sometime next week perhaps. have to prioritize. or maybe tomorrow (Thurs) 10pm if everyone is able.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: bluemeanies on May 14, 2014, 04:05:47 PM
or maybe tomorrow (Thurs) 10pm if everyone is able.

Would tomorrow night 10 pm EST be for sure, obviously barring some act of god or family emergency? Or is overtime a possibility tomorrow as well?

Barton and I can play tomorrow night at that time. Sunday night would be the next available time after that for us two. The other players will have to weigh in on their availability.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: BIG DICK RICK on May 14, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
Hopefully we can get everyone together tomorrow or by Sunday cuz I'm pretty sure that's going to be our cut off point for getting the match played.  Lets all hope we can all get together tomorrow and play 3's like this thing was intended to be played as :/...So, tomorrow night at 10pm est, I'll be there.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 15, 2014, 06:17:54 PM
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3503580519.png)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/3503580519.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3503580519)

Currently TS is getting some lag issues. tourney 4 is good for me though. it's only parts of TS it seems. the western servers.

Here are the traceroutes for 3 different servers in order

Tourney 4
TSRa2
TSra2NY



Tracing route to 69.9.168.4 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  xxx.xx.xx.x
  2    28 ms    29 ms    29 ms  10.32.147.1
  3    42 ms    33 ms    30 ms  P0-2-3-0.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.4
5.20]
  4    31 ms    81 ms    30 ms  ae0-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.209
.118]
  5    30 ms    30 ms    29 ms  0.so-6-0-1.XT1.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.17.89]
  6    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  GigabitEthernet6-0-0.GW18.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63
.22.225]
  7    31 ms    30 ms    31 ms  internap-gw.customer.alter.net [65.217.199.202]

  8    46 ms    30 ms    30 ms  border3.po1-20g-bbnet1.nym008.pnap.net [216.52.9
5.4]
  9    30 ms    30 ms    38 ms  inapvoxcust-8.border3.nym008.pnap.net [63.251.26
.2]
 10    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  0.ae59.tsr1.lga3.us.voxel.net [208.122.44.201]
 11    34 ms    36 ms    34 ms  4000.te1-49.esr2.ldj1.us.voxel.net [173.231.161.
2]
 12    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  vicious.voxel.net [69.9.166.38]
 13    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms  69.9.168.4

Trace complete.



Tracing route to tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  xxx.xx.xx.x
  2    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  10.32.147.1
  3    34 ms    35 ms    33 ms  P0-3-1-7.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [100.41.2
04.67]
  4    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms  so-3-1-0-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.151.234]
  5    73 ms    72 ms    76 ms  0.xe-3-3-0.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.133]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7    73 ms    74 ms    74 ms  vlan52.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.254]
  8    70 ms    70 ms    70 ms  ae-47-47.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.201.33]

  9    71 ms    69 ms    69 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.148.46]

 10    70 ms    71 ms    73 ms  ae-4-90.edge3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.155.209]

 11    88 ms    89 ms    91 ms  te2-5.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com [4.26.34
.22]
 12    90 ms    91 ms    91 ms  ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.132]
 13   136 ms   136 ms   130 ms  ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com [173.192.
18.136]
 14   132 ms   132 ms   135 ms  ae0.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
8.211]
 15   113 ms   112 ms   112 ms  po1.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com [66.228.11
8.186]
 16   137 ms   127 ms   131 ms  tastyspleen.net [67.228.69.114]

Trace complete.


Tracing route to li617-118.members.linode.com [162.216.19.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  xxx.xxx.xx.x
  2    29 ms    28 ms    28 ms  10.32.147.1
  3    34 ms    32 ms    34 ms  P0-3-1-7.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [100.41.2
04.67]
  4    30 ms    31 ms    51 ms  so-5-0-0-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.22.18]
  5    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  0.xe-6-1-1.XT1.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.57]
  6    33 ms    39 ms    33 ms  TenGigE0-4-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.202
]
  7    64 ms    63 ms    64 ms  tinet-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.72.122]
  8    76 ms    76 ms    75 ms  xe-5-3-0.nyc41.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.110.138]
  9    68 ms    69 ms    67 ms  gtt-gw.ip4.tinet.net [199.229.230.94]
 10    67 ms    68 ms    68 ms  ae3-80g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.94.117]
 11    67 ms    67 ms    73 ms  as8001.ae4-3654.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.34
.178]
 12    69 ms    68 ms    69 ms  0.e1-2.tbr1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.118]
 13    65 ms    65 ms    64 ms  207.99.53.42
 14    65 ms    64 ms    65 ms  li617-118.members.linode.com [162.216.19.118]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 15, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
asylum ex/golgo- barton/00 Demo GolgoPOV
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: quadz on May 15, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
Currently TS is getting some lag issues.

Kind of an odd phrasing considering your traceroutes show the lag originating in your own home / neighborhood.

The reverse trace shows the same:

|Host                                            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
|1. 67.228.69.113-static.reverse.softlayer.com    0.0%  1008    0.3   0.3   0.2  72.8   3.0
|2. ae13.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com        0.0%  1008    0.2   0.2   0.1  41.0   2.6
|3. ae6.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com         0.0%  1008    0.2   1.5   0.2  57.1   6.8
|4. ae-11.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net          0.0%  1008    0.7   0.7   0.5  26.4   1.0
|5. ae-9.r07.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net           0.0%  1007    0.7   0.7   0.6  10.6   0.5
|6. 0.ae12.br2.dfw13.alter.net                    0.0%  1007    0.7   3.2   0.3  67.3   9.8
|7. P1-8-0-0.NYCMNY-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net        0.1%  1007   44.6  43.0  40.6  55.8   1.5
|8. P1-0.NYCMNY-NYCXNYCR-ERXG02.verizon-gni.net   0.0%  1007   41.7  43.1  41.6 241.9  11.1
|9. pool-71-190-xxx-xxx.nycmny.east.verizon.net   0.1%  1007   71.1  71.7  70.2 156.1   4.1   <- lag is here on the last hop


It's also unfortunate, that from your end, the route to Dallas on networklayer is taking a detour through Chicago. But that's separate from the lag that's already there from your first hop. (Or, last hop, in the above case.)


:exqueezeme:

Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on May 15, 2014, 09:57:03 PM
Currently TS is getting some lag issues.

Kind of an odd phrasing considering your traceroutes show the lag originating in your own home / neighborhood.

The reverse trace shows the same:

|Host                                            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
|1. 67.228.69.113-static.reverse.softlayer.com    0.0%  1008    0.3   0.3   0.2  72.8   3.0
|2. ae13.dar02.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com        0.0%  1008    0.2   0.2   0.1  41.0   2.6
|3. ae6.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com         0.0%  1008    0.2   1.5   0.2  57.1   6.8
|4. ae-11.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net          0.0%  1008    0.7   0.7   0.5  26.4   1.0
|5. ae-9.r07.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net           0.0%  1007    0.7   0.7   0.6  10.6   0.5
|6. 0.ae12.br2.dfw13.alter.net                    0.0%  1007    0.7   3.2   0.3  67.3   9.8
|7. P1-8-0-0.NYCMNY-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net        0.1%  1007   44.6  43.0  40.6  55.8   1.5
|8. P1-0.NYCMNY-NYCXNYCR-ERXG02.verizon-gni.net   0.0%  1007   41.7  43.1  41.6 241.9  11.1
|9. pool-71-190-xxx-xxx.nycmny.east.verizon.net   0.1%  1007   71.1  71.7  70.2 156.1   4.1   <- lag is here on the last hop


It's also unfortunate, that from your end, the route to Dallas on networklayer is taking a detour through Chicago. But that's separate from the lag that's already there from your first hop. (Or, last hop, in the above case.)


:exqueezeme:

it's all greek to me. it's probably my router but then again i have no problems with some servers. i really don't know what it is. i can only guess from past experiences that it could be a few things 1)heat build up in the 2 modems, somehow, it slows down the connection every few months 2) i have my computer and another computer routed together, usually when the other computer gathers more data on the receive/sent network status, the connection may also slow down.) doesn't make sense though, it would be universal i would think, meaning all servers would receive a higher ping. i don't want to shut off my box and lose my ip config for my servers though to see if its the heat.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: haunted on May 15, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
The problem is as much your router's fault as this is a meteor:

(http://i.imgur.com/IkdIO.jpg)
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: Er!c@ on May 17, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
y0, Stan, CiViLiaN, Slugs, Jehar, Idioplex = Game needs to be played by sunday evening or i'm giving a ff to the team with the least number of players present.
Title: Re: Rocket Arena 2 Draft - Signups Closed, BRACKETS POSTED!
Post by: R. Hayabusa on October 14, 2016, 04:15:28 PM
just necroposting in hopes of regaining traction. what happened to the EDL? i got an email but must have deleted it.