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General Ownage / Re: NA TDM PR

« on: October 31, 2011, 01:06:22 AM »

Demon.. not sure if you had all of my documentation. I took the liberty of doing that for you, and posting 2 new ones.
My last duel with kickr0(dm1) and my last duel with slugs(rage) attached.
Me doing well in organized 4v4, 130 ping + 1 week ago

Not saying I'm amazing or anything, but I feel like I got a little misrepresented. I mean... I don't bother posting a LOT of stuff. Same with adrenal1ne and playboy. Adren hasn't posted any of the 100 wins he's has on me the past year or two, I haven't posted any of the 15+ I have on him. Even fader/vae get misrepresented... if one of those kids beats naymlis, why would they post the demo when naym runs train on them most of the time....

I appreciate the mature, humble response.  Letting your gameplay speak for itself is the best way for a player to earn the respect they deserve.
I have seen all of the demos you linked(including the tlk game); and I'll check out the 2 new ones(I'm sure they are good).

I wasn't meaning to post demonames of players not in the list(with the exception of indisputable achievements like beating someone like Damiah).   The demonames were to help us visualize a 'ladder' of how these 8 players measured against each other.
Let me be clear, that this is not about who's slightly better than who, or "I once beat naymlis in 2005", or something lame like that.  You are all great players.  And maybe you are currently better than Kickro ever was, but you asked for the ranking and I was trying to put facts behind the words.
Perhaps we'll on the servers sometime and see where we fall out. 

Playboy, it is a crime you don't post some of that r1q2-autorecord bullshit.
Which brings me to say that t is a shame that demos are not encouraged to be posted on these forums.  The pathetic 300-some demos that are posted here are a poor representation of 6-8 solid servers running 24/7 for years.

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General Ownage / Re: NA TDM PR

« on: October 30, 2011, 04:39:56 PM »

Demon, you know I play as "Near", right?
Because bonzai's a complete spammy idiot who does nothing but run?  but, if he didn't run against Barton, I'd say it'd be an easy win for bart.

of course, you've never hidden that fact that you are Near.

I agree that Barton might be better than Bonzai now, but I have played both many times and only lost to Bonzai.

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General Ownage / Re: NA TDM PR

« on: October 30, 2011, 02:33:19 PM »

tier-wise, considering duel/tdm/EVERYTHING imo it's like
1. naymlis
1. ah!
1. adrenal1ne
5. haunted sober
5. kickr0, but went inactive 2-3 weeks ago
7. ryd3l...inactive+fag
7. slugs CURRENTLY
9. vae
9. flarez not giving a damn
13. senz
13. fader
13. kyuss
13. xanax
20. hunter
20. .Skillz
20. Chiefin
20. beez
20. johnson
20. barton
20. flesh
20. adam
99. bonzai

In order of documented skill:
Naymlis
Playboy
Adrenaline
Millan
Kickro
Slugs
Haunted
Vaevictus
Faderjok

Skillz, Rydel, Senz, Kyuss, Johnson, Flesh, and Adam don't have any/many games posted so they are not represented well.   I think Kyuss, Rydel, and Johnson are better than at least Faderjok, but don't have any 'proof' of that.
Adrenaline could be the best NA player currently(as most others are not currently practiced/active; but that hasn't been proven).  Adrenaline is shake-able in a game; once losing he is prone to be inconsistent.
Flarez rarely plays a serious game.  The last one was probably in 2007.  Whether winning or losing, he often gets distracted by... anything.
Tier-wise, Haunted, Vaevictus, and Faderjok are not in the same 'group' as the others on the list.
TDM skill measurement is difficult.  Rarely does one player win the game for a team single-handedly, but there are a lot of factors to consider when evaluating good TDM play/players.  Communication, power-up control, teamplay with map control, weapon respawn control, weapon/ammo dropping, zone playing, playing with your team in mind or playing with control of the opposing team in mind, knowing when to be aggressive or defensive, etc...
And Bonzai is a good player; in my experience better than Barton.  Why does every player with low self-esteem, or whose bark is stronger than their bite, have to poke at players beneath them?  It seems that the only thing that Quake2 players are really good at is immaturity.  (as I'm sure every response to this post will prove)

Naymlis:
aerowalk_naymlis12_adrenaline4_1.zip
aerowalk_naymlis6_adrenaline1_incomplete_1.zip
q2dm1_naymlis10_flarez8_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis12_adrenaline-1_1.zip
q2dm1_naymlis15_flarez3_3.zip
q2dm1_naymlis15_kickr06_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis23_flarez10_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis24_damiah3_lpb_4.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_dahang3_both_2.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_flarez5_3.zip
q2dm1_naymlis6_purri5_lpb_3.zip
q2dm3_naymlis28_adrenaline1_2.zip
q2dm3_naymlis28_adrenaline1_4.zip
q2pduel4_naymlis10_kickro4_2.zip
ztn2dm3_faderjok0_naymlis59_0.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis11_vaevictus1_in-eyes_both_1.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis15_kickro3_2.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis43_adrenaline-1_2.zip
ztn2dm3_naymlis8_slugs0_incomplete_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez3_naymlis15_3.zip

Playboy:
q2dm1_2x2_ah-kickro17_dinsum-ridix11_playboy10_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_damiah15_2.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_mirr16_2.zip
q2dm1_playboy3_mirr1_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy5_damiah3_lpb_chase_plusother_1.zip
q2dm1_playboy5_mirr-2_3.zip
q2dm1_playboy7_damiah1_lpb_in-eyes_3.zip
q2dm1_slugs4_playboy13_0.zip
q2rdm2_playboy31_kyuss-1_in-eyes_1.zip
q2rdm2_slugs1_playboy2_1.zip

Adrenaline:
aerowalk_adrenaline18_bonzai3_2.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline24_slugs0_incomplete_4.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline24_vaevictus-1_plusothers_4.zip
aerowalk_adrenaline32_hunter2_3.zip
ptrip_adrenaline15_rydel3_2.zip
ptrip_adrenaline19_slugs3_2.zip
ptrip_adrenaline27_barton0_3.zip
q2dm1_adrenaline7_haunted0_3.zip
q2dm1_adrenaline7_slugs2_incomplete_1.zip
q2dm7_adrenaline22_haunted-3_3.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline18_faderjok0_3.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline27_slugs-1_incomplete_4.zip
q2rdm2_adrenaline4_kyuss-1_incomplete_1.zip
q2rdm7_adrenaline14_kyuss0_incomplete_2.zip
q2rdm7_adrenaline37_bonzai4_3.zip
ztn2dm3_adrenaline18_bonzai0_3.zip
ztn2dm3_adrenaline2_slugs0_2.zip

Millan:
q2dm1_adrenaline9_millan11_1.zip
q2dm1_flarez12_naymlis2_4.zip
q2dm1_flarez3_naymlis15_3.zip
q2dm1_flarez5_naymlis6_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez6_naymlis10_0.zip
q2dm1_flarez6_naymlis5_3.zip
q2dm1_flarez9_naymlis3_0.zip
q2dm1_adzilla4_flarez5_2.zip
q2dm1_flarez4_purri11_lpb_4.zip

Kickro:
q2dm1_kickro32_naymlis-1_2.zip
q2dm1_kickro31_naymlis0_4.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted2_kickro3_3.zip
q2dm1_damiah3_kickro1_1.zip
q2dm1_kickro6_damiah4_lpb_2.zip
q2pduel4_kickro15_naymlis5_1.zip

Slugs:
q2dm1_slugs10_naymlis5_1.zip
q2dm1_slugs4_naymlis-1_incomplete_0.zip
q2rdm2_slugs17_playboy3_2.zip
q2rdm2_vaevictus6_slugs15_0.zip

Haunted:
q2dm1_haunted8_adrenaline2_incomplete_3.zip
ptrip_haunted12_kyuss3_1.zip
q2dm1_haunted10_flarez9_2.zip
q2dm1_haunted12_xanax0_1.zip
q2dm1_haunted5_senz1_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted7_vaevictus1_hpb_2.zip
q2dm1_haunted8_xpoze5_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted9_slugs8_2.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted7_hunter2_1.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted7_vaevictus2_1.zip
ztn2dm3_haunted8_senz0_0.zip
q2dm1_haunted10_skillz4_1.zip

Vaevictus:
ztn2dm3_vaevictus11_kickro4_1.zip
q2rdm2_vaevictus19_slugs6_1.zip
ztn2dm3_vaevictus12_kyuss0_incomplete_1.zip
ztn2dm3_vaevictus20_bonzai1_2.zip

Faderjok:
q2rdm7_faderjok37_bonzai4_1.zip
ztn2dm3_faderjok11_vaevictus8_1__ztn2dm3_faderjok1_vaevictus14_0.zip

Skillz:
q2dm1_skillz16_senz4_1.zip

4

Trouble Shooting / Re: keygrip issues

« on: March 20, 2011, 04:39:45 PM »

at a command prompt, can you 'ping localhost'?
the msvcr-type dlls or protocol binder dlls that Keygrip uses might also be overwritten by another program  You could try uninstalling/reinstalling Kg204.
also, I assume you are using quake2, right; not some bastardization of quake2 like aprq2, q2a, or r1q2...

5

Trouble Shooting / Re: keygrip issues

« on: March 20, 2011, 01:20:03 PM »

Three possible causes I can think of off the top of my head:
1) Your software firewall is preventing localhost loopback.
2) Your NIC or software protocol adapter doesn't support localhost proxying.
3) Your computer doesn't know how to reach the host "localhost".  Try making a localhost entry in your hosts file.
C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
There should be an uncommented entry that says:   
127.0.0.1      localhost

6

Trouble Shooting / Re: Linux doesnt like square's q2kicker script

« on: February 11, 2011, 07:11:16 PM »

His repo is borked.

Code: [Select]

#!/bin/bash

# Q2 Kicker helper v1.0
#
# Written by SquareHimself
# WTFPL :: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL
#
# Thank you to jdolan for his patches to aprq2.
# Please visit his site at http://jdolan.dyndns.org
#
# Also, thank you to Jehar for providing both the
# kicker, hosting, tastyspleen.tv, etc...
#
# TODO: - Allow for choosing cleancode over aprq2's DLL
# - Use CleanQ2 instead of AprQ2
#

### This script must be run in a terminal.
[ -t 0 ] || exit 1

### Let's make some functions for a cleaner procedure later.
function FetchSources {
mkdir /tmp/aprq2
cd /tmp/aprq2
svn co svn://jdolan.dyndns.org/aprq2/trunk
if [ -e "/tmp/aprq2/trunk/Makefile" ]; then
echo "==> Sources acquired."
else
echo "==> Sources were not downloaded. Aborting."
exit 1
fi
}

### These menus... <3
function MusicOption {
MUSICP="MPD XMMS No"
select choice in $MUSICP; do
if [ "$choice" = "MPD" ]; then
sed -i 's/BUILD_MPD=NO/BUILD_MPD=YES/g' /tmp/aprq2/trunk/Makefile
echo "==> Selecting MPD."
return
elif [ "$choice" = "XMMS" ]; then
sed -i 's/BUILD_XMMS=NO/BUILD_XMMS=YES/g' /tmp/aprq2/trunk/Makefile
echo "==> Selecting XMMS."
return
else
echo "==> Not enabling MPD or XMMS support."
return
fi
done
}

function OpenALOption {
CHOICES="Yes No"
select choice in $CHOICES; do
if [ "$choice" = "Yes" ]; then
echo "==> Enabling OpenAL support."
return
else
sed -i 's/BUILD_OPENAL=YES/BUILD_OPENAL=NO/g' /tmp/aprq2/Makefile
echo "==> Not enabling OpenAL."
return
fi
done
}

function MakeBin {
cd /tmp/aprq2/trunk
make

### This shit gets messy, but it works.
if [ -e "/tmp/aprq2/trunk/releasei386/aq2" ]; then
echo "==> Build was successful."
echo "==> Installing binary as /usr/bin/quake2"
mkdir -p /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2
mv /tmp/aprq2/trunk/releasei386/aq2 /home/$USER/.quake2

if [ '$UID' == '0' ]; then
echo "#\!/bin/sh\nexec /home/\$USER/.quake2/aq2 +set basedir /home/\$USER/.quake2 \$*" > /usr/bin/quake2
chmod +x /usr/bin/quake2
else
echo "==> Need root for this..."

if [ -x `which sudo` ]; then
echo "==> Found sudo. Invokes twice to create, then make executable."
echo "exec /home/\$USER/.quake2/aq2 +set basedir /home/\$USER/.quake2 \$*" | sudo tee -a /usr/bin/quake2 && sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/quake2
sudo -k
else
"==> Using su."
su -c 'echo "exec /home/\$USER/.quake2/aq2 +set basedir /home/\$USER/.quake2 \$*" > /usr/bin/quake2 && chmod +x /usr/bin/quake2'
fi

fi

if [ -e "/usr/bin/quake2" ]; then
echo "==> Binary installed."
mv /tmp/aprq2/trunk/releasei386/gamei386.so /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2
mv /tmp/aprq2/trunk/baseq2/pics /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2
else
echo "==> Had trouble installing the binary. :("
exit 1
fi

else
echo "###################################"
echo "There was a problem with the build!"
echo "###################################"
exit 1
fi
}

function PatchHTTP {
cd /tmp/aprq2/trunk
wget "http://github.com/squarehimself/q2kicker/raw/master/files.patch"
wget "http://github.com/squarehimself/q2kicker/raw/master/cl_http.patch"
patch -p1 < files.patch
patch -p1 < cl_http.patch
cd /tmp/aprq2/trunk/qcommon
wget "http://github.com/squarehimself/q2kicker/raw/master/files.h"
}

function ExtraFiles {
YESORNO="Yes No"
select choice in $YESORNO; do
if [ "$choice" = "Yes" ]; then
echo "==> Downloading kicker package"
cd /tmp/aprq2
wget "http://tastyspleen.tv/q2k/q2kicker_current.zip"
echo
echo "==> Extracting and stuff..."
unzip q2kicker_current.zip
mv /tmp/aprq2/q2kicker/baseq2/* /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2
mv /tmp/aprq2/q2kicker/NEW\ PLAYERS\ READ\ THIS.txt /home/$USER/.quake2
rm /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2/gamex86.dll
return
else
cd /home/$USER/.quake2
wget "http://tastyspleen.tv/q2k/q2kicker/NEW%20PLAYERS%20READ%20THIS.txt"
cd /home/$USER/.quake2/baseq2
wget "http://tastyspleen.tv/q2k/q2kicker/baseq2/autoexec.cfg"
wget "http://tastyspleen.tv/q2k/q2kicker/baseq2/address.cfg"
return
fi
done
}

function PNGPatch {
echo "==> Do we need to patch for libpng14?"
YNUn="Yes No Unsure"
select choice in $YNUn; do
if [ "$choice" = "Unsure" ]; then
echo "Not applying the patch, but you should learn how to check package versions."
echo "If the build fails, this could be why."
return
elif [ "$choice" = "Yes" ]; then
echo "==> Patching for libpng14"
cd /tmp/aprq2/trunk
wget "http://github.com/squarehimself/q2kicker/raw/master/pngpatch.patch"
patch -p0 < pngpatch.patch
return
else
echo "==> Not patching for libpng14."
return
fi
done
}

function JPEGPatch {
echo "==> Do we need to patch for libjpeg8?"
YesNoU="Yes No Unsure"
select choice in $YesNoU; do
if [ "$choice" = "Unsure" ]; then
echo "Not applying the patch, but you should learn how to check package versions."
echo "If the build fails, this could be why."
return
elif [ "$choice" = "Yes" ]; then
echo "==> Patching for libjpeg8"
cd /tmp/aprq2/trunk
wget "http://github.com/squarehimself/q2kicker/raw/master/jpegpatch.patch"
patch -p0 < jpegpatch.patch
return
else
echo "==> Not patching for libjpeg8."
return
fi
done
}


if [ -e `which svn` ]; then
echo "==> Fetching sources from svn..."
FetchSources
echo

echo "==> Would you like to enable MPD or XMMS support?"
MusicOption
echo

echo """==> What about OpenAL sound?
(Usually better, needs OpenAL installed and enabled in your .cfg)"""
OpenALOption
echo

echo "==> Applying HTTP downloading patch..."
PatchHTTP
echo

PNGPatch
echo

JPEGPatch
echo

echo "==> Starting the build..."
MakeBin
echo

echo """==> Would you like to use the game files included with the kicker?
(Say yes here unless you've purchased quake2.)"""
ExtraFiles
echo

echo "==> Cleaning up..."
rm -rf /tmp/aprq2
echo """
If everything was successful, your extra pak files go in ~/.quake2/baseq2
and you can run 'quake2' from your run prompt or console.
The binary is installed to /usr/bin/quake2, as a reminder.
There is a readme in ~/.quake2 explaining the baseq2
directory and all of the optional stuff you can do in
there. I strongly suggest reading this file immediately
and becoming very familiar with the contents, because
this file outlines everything you need to know to get
quake2 set up and going.

If you have any problems, feel free to contact Square or Jehar on IRC.
server: irc.globalgamers.net
channel: #tastycast"""
else
echo "This script requires svn. Please install subversion and try again."
fi

7

Bot Drop / Re: take it bot

« on: December 22, 2010, 03:27:19 PM »

Perhaps there is other proof somewhere, but there is nothing in this demo that even hints at cheating of any kind.

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Trouble Shooting / Re: q2dm5_bad_ts_connection

« on: July 26, 2010, 06:30:16 PM »

>>> net async setting thingy?   Turned off it makes things feel funky

I'm not sure what command you are talking about.  =/

>>> Try a new download of a client, with default configuration and run a packet capture.  Actually look at the times and see if you are getting the server responses in a timely manner.

Are you talking about r1q2(or similar) or a packet sniffer like wireshark?
I don't know how to do a packet capture or how to see the results even if I did.  =/

I watch demos of myself from 2003 and everything is so smooth.... a sureness in every step.   Now, I have a hard time getting through doorways...

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Trouble Shooting / Re: q2dm5_bad_ts_connection

« on: July 26, 2010, 03:08:21 AM »

I meant, if traceroute shows a poor connection, then there's nothing that can be done anyway.
that's all.


Tracing route to tastyspleen.net [74.54.186.226]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  192.168.0.1

  2    11 ms    11 ms    10 ms 

  3    10 ms     8 ms    21 ms 

  4    11 ms     9 ms    16 ms  chnddsrj01-ae2.0.rd.ph.cox.net [70.169.76.229]

  5    56 ms    32 ms    34 ms  dalsbprj02-ae0.0.rd.dl.cox.net [68.1.0.143]

  6    38 ms    33 ms    33 ms  te9-1.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.6]

  7    36 ms    32 ms    37 ms  42.ff.5746.static.theplanet.com [70.87.255.66]

  8    44 ms    35 ms    34 ms  te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]

  9    33 ms    34 ms    35 ms  tastyspleen.net [74.54.186.226]

Trace complete.

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Trouble Shooting / q2dm5_bad_ts_connection

« on: July 26, 2010, 01:44:08 AM »

Posting this because everyone else in the game said their connections were fine.
q2 plays fine on other servers. q2 plays fine on my own computer.
Other games dont have this problem either.
So, it has to be my connection to theplanet or the TS server settings.
same on vanilla as dm.
plays as if my ping is 150ms or so(I usually have around 40ms ping)... everything is delayed.  Railgun; press fire and one one-thousand and then it fires.
netgraph is clean... thin green line with no red at the bottom of the screen.

same player, same computer, same configs, same game; yet it plays as bad now with a 5mb down/2 mb up cablemodem as it did in 1998 with a 19.2 modem.

any suggestions (other than traceroute, because all that does is tell me what I already know)?
TIA.

11

Bot Drop / Re: Wallhacker?

« on: May 26, 2010, 01:38:34 AM »

I completely agree with Armor. 
Perhaps there is proof of suspicious anything on the admin boards, but there's nothing been posted publicly that even hints at a bot/wallhack.
Plenty of players who can do well with his ping.

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Bot Drop / Re: Aimbotter Needs Perminant BAN!!!

« on: May 08, 2010, 01:29:58 AM »

Vigilante is one of the best railers I have ever seen.
He is the best of the people I only know from Tastyspleen(and not from another source).
Please post a demo if you think someone is doing something questionable... or impressive.

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Jump & Trick Demos / Re: Jump tutorial for newer players on q2rdm2, simple jumps

« on: March 13, 2010, 10:10:57 PM »

nice guide to the simple q2rdm2 jumps.
One question: all of the jumps you show are very easy for me, except I can't make the double jumps.  I can DJ almost every time, but I never jump high enough to make it.

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Quake FAQs, HOWTOs, and Articles / Re: Quake2 to display something other than default opengl

« on: February 11, 2010, 02:52:43 PM »

Thanks, that was just the answer I was looking for.
It does appear to be slightly clearer, but it seems a lot more choppy... like digital from analog.

not sure which I'll stick with, but it is nice to have a choice. 

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Quake FAQs, HOWTOs, and Articles / Re: Quake2 to display something other than default opengl

« on: February 10, 2010, 05:06:15 PM »

Sorry, I guess I wasn't very clear.
I need to change/modify the renderer somehow... and this is for quake2 (not r1q2 or any other bastardization of the real game).

thanks for the input though.